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2018-09-09 16:53:05 UTC  

lol

2018-09-09 16:53:08 UTC  

then what the fuck are you talking about "soviet loyalty"???

2018-09-09 16:53:10 UTC  

so loyal to bread lines im sure

2018-09-09 16:53:22 UTC  

Soviet nostalgia is rooted in nationalism, not actually liking the Soviet Union. If the transition to democracy wasn't completely fucked by Yeltsin there would be next to no nostalgia for the Soviet Union today.

2018-09-09 16:53:42 UTC  
2018-09-09 16:53:44 UTC  

they went from being an arguably great sized empire

2018-09-09 16:53:45 UTC  

yeah

2018-09-09 16:53:49 UTC  

to a cucked democracy

2018-09-09 16:53:51 UTC  

@Deleted User I'm not, I'm saying that lots of people are more so loyal to the communists than people are loyal to fascists

2018-09-09 16:53:55 UTC  

its not nostalgia for bread lines

2018-09-09 16:54:00 UTC  

Soviet nostalgia is probably due to a lot of different reasons, the first being fondness for communism that a lot of people here have

2018-09-09 16:54:01 UTC  

Nobody is loyal to communism in Russia lmao

2018-09-09 16:54:15 UTC  

because loyalty to fascism gets people a trial at the hague

2018-09-09 16:54:16 UTC  

???

2018-09-09 16:54:18 UTC  

the second being fondness over propaganda from "the good old days"

2018-09-09 16:54:21 UTC  

People like that the Soviet Union was stronger than Russia is today.

2018-09-09 16:54:28 UTC  

It has nothing to do with ideology.

2018-09-09 16:54:43 UTC  

I mean the communists did do a few things right, my grandfather remembers those right things fondly and hates the new capitalist system for ruining them and literally fucking up the population by doing so

2018-09-09 16:54:47 UTC  

you really need to understand how subject to intimidation and power people are

2018-09-09 16:54:51 UTC  

no one is free from it

2018-09-09 16:54:52 UTC  

and the third being a desire for Russia to return to prominence

2018-09-09 16:54:59 UTC  

They like that Russia didn't have to cuck to the west

2018-09-09 16:55:00 UTC  

its a chief characteristic of humanity

2018-09-09 16:55:02 UTC  

I would say that the fascist movement in Russia is a lot stronger than communism.

2018-09-09 16:55:05 UTC  

mostly things like availability of work, govorment work programs, public transport being heavily inveted in and certain sectors as well

2018-09-09 16:55:07 UTC  

@εïз irma εïз I don't give a shit about their ideology, I said already it's not about ideology

2018-09-09 16:55:26 UTC  

-ignores large communist party in Russia-

2018-09-09 16:55:32 UTC  

I don't see a sizeable fascist party

2018-09-09 16:55:36 UTC  

Enlighten me

2018-09-09 16:55:45 UTC  

🤔

2018-09-09 16:55:48 UTC  

He hated a lot of it as well, but his longing for a time for those specific programs to return is not without raeason, and its because they worked

2018-09-09 16:55:50 UTC  

No Russian fascist parties?

2018-09-09 16:55:57 UTC  

the pro-Soviet movement in Russia is much larger than the Fascist movement

2018-09-09 16:56:07 UTC  

but they aren't ideologically Soviets

2018-09-09 16:56:23 UTC  

at least not in the way that the original Soviets were

2018-09-09 16:56:59 UTC  

Communism is dead in Russia. Anything with Soviet attached to it is pure nostalgia and nationalism.

2018-09-09 16:57:03 UTC  

So if the Soviet movement could be made fascist would they be more successful?

2018-09-09 16:57:18 UTC  

(Also interetingly my grandfather was a member of the communist party, in his local city, he was however at one point too idealist and actually wanted to help people. This was an issue so they stormed his and my aprents apartament trying to find something incriminating because he just wasnt good at making people miserable. He also is and was veyr anti jewish, mostly because of his experience during the war and then during communism when he was in the party.)

2018-09-09 16:57:32 UTC  

nationalistic soviets?

2018-09-09 16:57:35 UTC  

that's probably why they raided him

2018-09-09 16:57:39 UTC  

that's NazBol