Immoral is evil, and present conditions aren’t evil

not everyone instinctively agrees with you

that's incorrect

not all ethical frameworks have such a black and white view of morality

Someone fornicating is wrong, someone encouraging fornication and sinning is evil

so you are relying on a catholic doctrine?

that's a moral framework

and it's very relevant to your worldview

state these assumptions before making claims and expecting people to be mind readers and know where you are coming from.

your argument thus far can be distilled down to this

"i dont like what i see" -> "I think it's the jews" -> "YOU DISAGREE?? FUCK YOU JEW SHILL REEEEE"

the drug addled thoughts of a lazy teenager

no, its not a framework in a philosophical sense

its the personal synergy of biological, economical, psychological and theological understanding

>personal synergy

there lies your problem

You are basically straw manning his argument tho, so you are at fault as well @Deleted User

you speak as if EVERYONE should know and accept your worldview

@! Blanc Spooky Lowee you are coming in late here

you keep begging the question every time i try to engage you

I know, but i had to point it out

>admit Jewish influence has had a negative effect

it's not a strawman at this point

yeah, well @! Blanc Spooky Lowee just understand thats his MO to use fallacy as part and parcel of his style

and deny it vehemently

he's been doing nothing but begging the question and then claiming im trying to deflect

I never accepted your premise in the first place

But it was and i saw you use it currently, you are boiling down his arguments and making it look weaker.

and you keep acting like any subsequent sentence i write is avoiding your point that you have been granted through divine intervention because YOU and YOU ALONE are a culture helmsman of such a higher order than anyone else who came befor eyou

@! Blanc Spooky Lowee that is his argument. it's not a strawman. it's an accurate description of his rhetoric thus far.

he as at no point tried to define his values and how he deconstructs the present based on them (a way of thought he engages in despite saying deconstructionism is cancerous)

""i dont like what i see" -> "I think it's the jews" -> "YOU DISAGREE?? FUCK YOU JEW SHILL REEEEE"."

This is accurate? I came in and saw him talking about how porn is immoral.

Or fornicating rather.

Okay, ill lay out a simple version. Human sin is appetite fulfillment. Its our fatal weakness. We seek pleasure beyond the point of satisfaction. we seek it for pleasure itself and continue seeking it after satiation would be possible. This is what i understand sin to be. It should be the goal of society to discourage this sort of sin since it is hedonism. Instead, we have a media complex that encourages appetite fulfillment and hedonism and consumerism without exception, without shame, etc etc. This is , in many ways, a natural state of man. That doesnt make it right, and in fact its quite wrong.

I've asked him several times to explain WHY he sees porn as immoral

and he just engages in rhetoric about Jews

and how I'm trying to obscure and muddy the conversation

Thence my statement that sin [most sin] isnt evil, but encouragement of sin is evil

instead of revealing to us his ethical framework that he so rigorously deconstructs the world based on

you didnt ask me many times why

its evil for what i said