Message from @Lem

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2018-09-27 02:08:28 UTC  

In principal it's the same

2018-09-27 02:08:28 UTC  

even if unconditional acceptance requires taht, that's not neccessarily open borders

2018-09-27 02:09:09 UTC  

Legal migrants that use welfare should be denied citizenship

2018-09-27 02:09:28 UTC  

that's pretty capitalist

2018-09-27 02:09:44 UTC  

Welfare should be removed in general tbh

2018-09-27 02:09:47 UTC  

reducing people to net gain/loss to the economy has no ethical backing

2018-09-27 02:09:54 UTC  

welfare helps keep people alive

2018-09-27 02:09:58 UTC  

that's inherently good

2018-09-27 02:13:22 UTC  

It makes people lazy

2018-09-27 02:13:46 UTC  

Working hard is superior morally than just being handed a way to survive

2018-09-27 02:13:57 UTC  

Poorly-implemented welfare incentivizes people not to leave welfare.

2018-09-27 02:13:57 UTC  

welfare should not be comfortable

2018-09-27 02:14:04 UTC  

that's bad

2018-09-27 02:14:05 UTC  

sure

2018-09-27 02:14:07 UTC  

And guess what? Welfare recipients vote for more welfare.

2018-09-27 02:14:13 UTC  

but being handed a way to survive is cool

2018-09-27 02:14:18 UTC  

humanity's at that stage

2018-09-27 02:14:21 UTC  

I'd rather have job programs

2018-09-27 02:14:45 UTC  

Replace welfare with job programs

2018-09-27 02:15:17 UTC  

If they can, and refuse the opportunity to work, they should not expect Societies or the governments help

2018-09-27 03:10:11 UTC  

A thirteen year old child. How can feminists explain this one now?

2018-09-27 03:22:27 UTC  

yeah. jobs programs can be good. The bigger problem with that today, though, is that public works like in FDR days were less specialized fields than they are today

2018-09-27 03:23:16 UTC  

i think that a much higher percentage of workers in construction today are expected to have operational competence in heavy machinery and modern construction techniques

2018-09-27 03:24:06 UTC  

not to mention that if big projects are attempted in jobs programs with untrained labor, i think today society would not tolerate human lives being lost for a project like we allowed for example during the construction of the hoover dam

2018-09-27 03:35:50 UTC  

Hi

2018-09-27 03:53:43 UTC  

@otterlycorrect i'm trying

2018-09-27 09:00:34 UTC  

human beings have inherent value, however illegally immigrating can be considered an invasion much like entering someones home without permission. In any normal world you are permitted to shoot this person or persons without question, even if the door was left wide open for days on end. There are some actions that, when commited, forefit your right to life, such as assault or invasion etc. as you are putting the lives of others into question. You are as such permitted to stop the invasion be it one or many people. Of course this requires actually passing the borderor getting within the buffer zone of a border which isnt usually even that long.

And honestly job programs are superior to welfare for anyone that can work. This has been proven over and over again.

2018-09-27 12:04:23 UTC  
2018-09-27 13:12:23 UTC  

You do not need to task untrained labour with difficult jobs, finishing is not a difficult job and only requires nails and mudding in the most basic sense. Dry-wallers, and floor setters.

2018-09-27 13:17:48 UTC  

These jobs would end up with no loss of life even if done poorly. If done poorly you just need to do it again, and if somebody is so bad at existing that they are unable to do even basic finishing then they are likely unskilled, in which case if they aren't a citizen, you should kick them out, and if they are a citizen then... Well... Sucks to be them. The government tried and tried to help.

2018-09-27 13:22:10 UTC  

Throwing money at problems does not work. We know this.

2018-09-27 14:21:38 UTC  

import all of mexico

2018-09-27 14:21:48 UTC  

we need to destroy racism

2018-09-27 14:27:10 UTC  

hi

2018-09-27 14:48:59 UTC  

Bye

2018-09-27 14:51:41 UTC  

The duck

2018-09-27 14:51:46 UTC  

🦆

2018-09-27 14:52:17 UTC  

@Deleted User deport all mexicans

2018-09-27 14:52:26 UTC  

We need to destroy rape and drug trafficking

2018-09-27 14:53:54 UTC  

that's a weird way to go about that

2018-09-27 14:58:31 UTC  

@21tagtmeiern it's a retort to what pozzed said