Message from @Lem
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Think how sad that is
Your being outmatched by a former commie
Did you read the communist manifesto or Das Kapital? Because most *Real* communists actually know what communism really is.
“Real communism”
Don’t try that “it wasn’t real communism” bs
Ya there is real communism. Its not like boomer conservatism that means "Oh it was high taxes so its socialism" which is not fucking socialism btw.
What is socialism?
Oh don’t hit me with that socdem shit
Socdem achieves the goals of socialism, without the retarded process and revolution with famines and what not
Same goal, different strat
Ya. Thats what most of those bernietards believe anyways.
Also it could be argued that since “real socialism” is utopian, therefore it’s dystopian
Because by logic, a utopia is s dystopia, a “perfect” state that will never be changeable
@Obungus Its basically redistribution of wealth through the means of production. So technically it could be considered socialism through excessive taxes.
No
Socialism is public means of production
Socdem loves capitalism
@L0GAN Believe it or not a Communist told me that was actually a "Humanitarian argument" which he believed to be invalid.
Lmao
Well "Taxes " I use as an example, what I probably should've said was recourses and services. A more economic term.
And considering you would have to have a command economy for that Ancoms are basically just pretnding.
Socdem isn’t socialism because of the methods it uses
But does the same thing
However socdem is amazing but people manage to fuck it up by not having any babies because they’re life is too perfect
They’ve resorted to letting in the refugees
Supposedly. We have to go through 3 different stages of human life first. Feudalism, Capitalism, then Socialism that goes into communism.
We need struggle
Marx was an idiot
He thought communism was the final and only last stage
Off topic but how does this server work? Through levels and posts?
There’s staff
There’s citizens
There’s debate
He also viewed the world through only economics, which is an extremely dangerous way to view the world. It dehumanizes people until they become numbers
Not really
That’s how the worlds been viewed until rather recently
Also I got Wealth of NAtions book for my birthday
@Deleted User Shut the fuck up
even money is better lmao
Get Mein kampf m8
get a copy of siege