I'm actually a liberal *Chuckles in Sargon*

I was a fucking communist and I probably know more about politics then you

Think how sad that is

Your being outmatched by a former commie

Did you read the communist manifesto or Das Kapital? Because most *Real* communists actually know what communism really is.

“Real communism”

Don’t try that “it wasn’t real communism” bs

Ya there is real communism. Its not like boomer conservatism that means "Oh it was high taxes so its socialism" which is not fucking socialism btw.

What is socialism?

Oh don’t hit me with that socdem shit

Socdem achieves the goals of socialism, without the retarded process and revolution with famines and what not

Same goal, different strat

Ya. Thats what most of those bernietards believe anyways.

Also it could be argued that since “real socialism” is utopian, therefore it’s dystopian

Because by logic, a utopia is s dystopia, a “perfect” state that will never be changeable

@Obungus Its basically redistribution of wealth through the means of production. So technically it could be considered socialism through excessive taxes.

No

Socialism is public means of production

Socdem loves capitalism

@L0GAN Believe it or not a Communist told me that was actually a "Humanitarian argument" which he believed to be invalid.

Lmao

Well "Taxes " I use as an example, what I probably should've said was recourses and services. A more economic term.

And considering you would have to have a command economy for that Ancoms are basically just pretnding.

Socdem isn’t socialism because of the methods it uses

But does the same thing

However socdem is amazing but people manage to fuck it up by not having any babies because they’re life is too perfect

They’ve resorted to letting in the refugees

Supposedly. We have to go through 3 different stages of human life first. Feudalism, Capitalism, then Socialism that goes into communism.

We need struggle

Marx was an idiot

He thought communism was the final and only last stage

Off topic but how does this server work? Through levels and posts?

There’s staff

There’s citizens

There’s debate

He also viewed the world through only economics, which is an extremely dangerous way to view the world. It dehumanizes people until they become numbers

Not really

That’s how the worlds been viewed until rather recently

Also I got Wealth of NAtions book for my birthday

@Deleted User Shut the fuck up

even money is better lmao