Message from @Adoring Fan

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2018-05-28 17:32:03 UTC  

you work only for yourself

2018-05-28 17:32:08 UTC  

that is private

2018-05-28 17:32:10 UTC  

and has a wage

2018-05-28 17:32:16 UTC  

But you don't own the people you help

2018-05-28 17:32:19 UTC  

your wage isnt earned while working for someone else

2018-05-28 17:32:24 UTC  

You produce their mental health

2018-05-28 17:32:37 UTC  

>you produce their mental health

2018-05-28 17:32:46 UTC  

i have yet to hear something this retarded in my life

2018-05-28 17:32:56 UTC  

^

2018-05-28 17:32:58 UTC  

there is no production in services

2018-05-28 17:33:03 UTC  

^

2018-05-28 17:33:14 UTC  

production requires tangibility

2018-05-28 17:33:18 UTC  

^

2018-05-28 17:33:37 UTC  

Fron the POV of economy, producing stuff and providing services are the same

2018-05-28 17:33:54 UTC  

🤦

2018-05-28 17:34:06 UTC  

Producing stuff increases the number and quality of stuff

2018-05-28 17:34:22 UTC  

Providing services increases the number and quality of labor force

2018-05-28 17:34:42 UTC  

Labor force is a good too

2018-05-28 17:35:04 UTC  

you produce nothing by telling a guy he has depression, who then pays you. And if you do, and he pays you and you earn a wage like that, the man who makes a duck doesnt own his customer either

2018-05-28 17:35:11 UTC  

so he is by your definition the same

2018-05-28 17:35:29 UTC  

aka a corporation, aka capitalistic

2018-05-28 17:36:31 UTC  

You improve that guy's mental health, and then he can work better and make more stuff/provide more services, that's why you get paid

2018-05-28 17:37:06 UTC  

The man who makes a duck on its own isn't earning a wage because he owns the duck

2018-05-28 17:37:12 UTC  

A service is economically productive. There is a whole type of economy called the tertiary economy where the primary source of GDP is services, i.e., the developed world.

2018-05-28 17:37:22 UTC  

^

2018-05-28 17:37:39 UTC  

Simply because those services are not physically tangible doesn't make them irrelevant.

2018-05-28 17:38:13 UTC  

@Advocatus Diaboli you owns the means to achieve the mental health

2018-05-28 17:38:15 UTC  

You help improve that guy's mental health because you want to help people and you charge it because you need to earn a living your self.

2018-05-28 17:38:41 UTC  

So, you want to help or you want to make money?

2018-05-28 17:38:54 UTC  

once again

2018-05-28 17:38:58 UTC  

You want to help and make money so you can live.

2018-05-28 17:39:00 UTC  

stop the word masturbation

2018-05-28 17:39:07 UTC  

you own the means to achieve the person's mental health

2018-05-28 17:39:08 UTC  

A comfortable life.

2018-05-28 17:41:03 UTC  

by the same logic, a lawyer helping a man to get out of legal trouble does not own the man, but he owns the knowledge to help him get out of legal trouble

2018-05-28 17:41:14 UTC  

your allegories make no sense

2018-05-28 17:44:23 UTC  

@Adoring Fan If I'm working for a hospital, I de jure temporarily lease my abilities to help people to the hospital (like it's not me helping, it's the hospital providing the service), that's the reason why people give the money to the hospital and then I'm getting paid by the hospital and that's a wage. If I'm a stand-alone psychologist, I alone own the means to cure the patient, but then the money I get is not a wage.

2018-05-28 17:44:52 UTC  

yes it is

2018-05-28 17:45:05 UTC  

legally speaking they are wages

2018-05-28 17:46:00 UTC  

first you went to thinking that psychologists have wages, now they dont

2018-05-28 17:46:16 UTC  

make up your fucking mind, tankie