Message from @WildRooHuntingTutorials

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2018-05-28 17:33:37 UTC  

Fron the POV of economy, producing stuff and providing services are the same

2018-05-28 17:33:54 UTC  

🤦

2018-05-28 17:34:06 UTC  

Producing stuff increases the number and quality of stuff

2018-05-28 17:34:22 UTC  

Providing services increases the number and quality of labor force

2018-05-28 17:34:42 UTC  

Labor force is a good too

2018-05-28 17:35:04 UTC  

you produce nothing by telling a guy he has depression, who then pays you. And if you do, and he pays you and you earn a wage like that, the man who makes a duck doesnt own his customer either

2018-05-28 17:35:11 UTC  

so he is by your definition the same

2018-05-28 17:35:29 UTC  

aka a corporation, aka capitalistic

2018-05-28 17:36:31 UTC  

You improve that guy's mental health, and then he can work better and make more stuff/provide more services, that's why you get paid

2018-05-28 17:37:06 UTC  

The man who makes a duck on its own isn't earning a wage because he owns the duck

2018-05-28 17:37:12 UTC  

A service is economically productive. There is a whole type of economy called the tertiary economy where the primary source of GDP is services, i.e., the developed world.

2018-05-28 17:37:22 UTC  

^

2018-05-28 17:37:39 UTC  

Simply because those services are not physically tangible doesn't make them irrelevant.

2018-05-28 17:38:13 UTC  

@Advocatus Diaboli you owns the means to achieve the mental health

2018-05-28 17:38:15 UTC  

You help improve that guy's mental health because you want to help people and you charge it because you need to earn a living your self.

2018-05-28 17:38:41 UTC  

So, you want to help or you want to make money?

2018-05-28 17:38:54 UTC  

once again

2018-05-28 17:38:58 UTC  

You want to help and make money so you can live.

2018-05-28 17:39:00 UTC  

stop the word masturbation

2018-05-28 17:39:07 UTC  

you own the means to achieve the person's mental health

2018-05-28 17:39:08 UTC  

A comfortable life.

2018-05-28 17:41:03 UTC  

by the same logic, a lawyer helping a man to get out of legal trouble does not own the man, but he owns the knowledge to help him get out of legal trouble

2018-05-28 17:41:14 UTC  

your allegories make no sense

2018-05-28 17:44:23 UTC  

@Adoring Fan If I'm working for a hospital, I de jure temporarily lease my abilities to help people to the hospital (like it's not me helping, it's the hospital providing the service), that's the reason why people give the money to the hospital and then I'm getting paid by the hospital and that's a wage. If I'm a stand-alone psychologist, I alone own the means to cure the patient, but then the money I get is not a wage.

2018-05-28 17:44:52 UTC  

yes it is

2018-05-28 17:45:05 UTC  

legally speaking they are wages

2018-05-28 17:46:00 UTC  

first you went to thinking that psychologists have wages, now they dont

2018-05-28 17:46:16 UTC  

make up your fucking mind, tankie

2018-05-28 17:46:55 UTC  

^

2018-05-28 17:48:00 UTC  

the problem here is that you have no understanding of what you say, you merely try to fit everything into your perverted definitions of reality, so that you can apply reality to your worldview

2018-05-28 17:48:05 UTC  

that is not how it works.

2018-05-28 17:48:08 UTC  

and mind you

2018-05-28 17:48:10 UTC  

even if it is

2018-05-28 17:48:14 UTC  

like you say it is

2018-05-28 17:48:21 UTC  

the soviet union still had wages

2018-05-28 17:48:35 UTC  

now i know

2018-05-28 17:48:51 UTC  

You miss the point

2018-05-28 17:48:57 UTC  

youre going to say if youre a doctor earns wages in the ussr it's ok because he "owns the production"

2018-05-28 17:49:00 UTC  

yet he doesnt

2018-05-28 17:49:05 UTC  

How so?

2018-05-28 17:49:10 UTC  

Sure he does