Message from @Dwarf

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2018-05-30 21:09:01 UTC  

like I said, word masturbation. You jacking yourself off to the vast array of words in your vocabulary doesn't shy away from the obvious, objective truth, that you've yet to speak a single truth.

2018-05-30 21:11:22 UTC  

How does he "disregard" them when his writings are filled with commentary that only a highly-educated individual who knows his stuff could provide? He was a Master of not only the classics, but also the popular thought of his day. His knowledge of political economy was vast, and he makes this obvious in his writings.

2018-05-30 21:13:49 UTC  

appeal to authority. You omit the fact that Marx knowingly failed to account for socialistic thought that existed prior to Marx, such as that of Mazdak, Thomas Paine, Chartism, Distributism, etc. All these systems were disregarded as capitalistic because Marx decided to alter previously accepted definitions.

2018-05-30 21:13:57 UTC  

oh, and Prussian Socialism, of course

2018-05-30 21:14:44 UTC  

I love watching facist and communist argue

2018-05-30 21:15:33 UTC  

Who's that guy ^

2018-05-30 21:15:38 UTC  

a liberal

2018-05-30 21:15:39 UTC  

Donโ€™t blame you theyโ€™re a bunch of idiots

2018-05-30 21:15:43 UTC  

OH BOY

2018-05-30 21:15:51 UTC  

HE MUST BE THE FIRST

2018-05-30 21:15:53 UTC  

@Adoring Fan Way to take another fallacy out of context. And No, he definitely didn't. It's obvious that you haven't read Marx's thoughts on utopian socialism. You are just a shit-tier pleb-brain that makes claims without justifying them.

2018-05-30 21:16:41 UTC  

I heard Hitler was a hermaphrodite. Don't ask me for a source though.

2018-05-30 21:17:00 UTC  

Why be a liberal, when you can be a *libertarian*

2018-05-30 21:17:01 UTC  

Liberals are a endangered species

2018-05-30 21:17:02 UTC  

strawman

2018-05-30 21:17:21 UTC  

We are the OG liberals

2018-05-30 21:17:30 UTC  

libruls hur hur hur

2018-05-30 21:17:43 UTC  

You new liberals are a sham

2018-05-30 21:18:27 UTC  

how do i go about this

2018-05-30 21:18:29 UTC  

and yes, in his criticism of utopian socialism, marx wrote within the confines of his definitions, of bourgeoisie and proletariat

2018-05-30 21:18:35 UTC  

>wanting to be any form of liberal ever

2018-05-30 21:18:40 UTC  

๐Ÿคข

2018-05-30 21:18:47 UTC  

^

2018-05-30 21:19:05 UTC  

โ€œLol we masculine gays were the first gays!โ€

2018-05-30 21:19:10 UTC  

How about just not be gay?

2018-05-30 21:19:17 UTC  

That isn't a strawman, pal. Learn how to contextualize. Maybe then you'll be able to provide source material in defense of your claims and won't have to to call people out for fallacies they were never responsible for in a shitty attempt to shut down your opposition who you so moronically presume is dumb enough to believe they are at fault.

2018-05-30 21:20:32 UTC  

Yankee doodle keep it up

2018-05-30 21:21:46 UTC  

>Yankee

2018-05-30 21:21:57 UTC  

you've so far been wholly unable to counter what I've presented. Your attempt to negate my criticism of Marx as disregarding other defitions of socialism for his own plays little effect into the actuality that his criticism merely evaluated the systems before him. He never successfully disregarded them as socialistic system whatsoever. As a result, it is foolish to treat Marx's definition of socialism as the only valid one.

2018-05-30 21:22:00 UTC  

Yo Voice in this server is dead

2018-05-30 21:22:01 UTC  

rip

2018-05-30 21:22:04 UTC  

O7

2018-05-30 21:22:16 UTC  

Yet another claim that you will fail to substantiate. Marx didn't think in such strict binary terms. He wrote about more than the bourgeoisie and proletariat. He knew very well that those weren't the only players in class society.

2018-05-30 21:23:47 UTC  

Inshallah

2018-05-30 21:24:14 UTC  

Marx accused Proudhon of wanting to rise above the bourgeoisie, for instance. I've so far substantiated everything. You merely refuse to accept reality. You deny the statements made by an actual party member of the CPUSA on the influence of Jews in the party, because it does not fit your narrative. It is documented very well. I gave you the exact page of the book that provides the evidence. You, by denying my evidence, attempt to claim that I have shown no evidence. That is illogical.

2018-05-30 21:24:21 UTC  

@Adoring Fan You're actually the one negating your own claims by failing to back them up with evidence. An unsubstantiated claim is of no worth whatsoever. And you're also straw-manning once again by claiming that I consider Marx's definition to be the only "valid" definition of socialism. I've never claimed that. It's not an argument I'm making, much less the crux of one.

2018-05-30 21:24:54 UTC  

you have, in practice, shown that you only accept Marx's socialism as valid socialism

This shit is pointless af lmao. I don't even follow because I typically only study the popular positions held in society, as they are ofc more relevant

2018-05-30 21:25:21 UTC  

How have I shown that? Are you EVER going to justify your claims with evidence?

But every statement yall make is like "I substantiate, you don't"

2018-05-30 21:26:43 UTC  

for instance, here you denied what is ultimately Chartian Socialism as being not real socialism