there is no debate, on materialism we reject religion from the outset

He's trying to argue on a theological basis rather than the marxist critque of religion

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Which is a dumb approach

What's wrong with that

Watch i’m gonna tell goodmorningleftside about 2:191 the one this facist brought up and he’ll judge

You can argue on either basis

Atheists can't lol, all you can say are insults

Because youre being very intellectually dishonest in how you approach the theological argument by not even considering that isolated quote in a greater context. If you stuck just to marxist critique of religion then there is no room to make that mistake based on your limited knowledge of the religion.

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Ok ok I'll get to it

An atheist and believer arguing is like two people arguing in different languages. It's fundamentally different.

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Atheists are retarded.

This^

I just avoid theological argument unless it's a religion ive personally grew up with like christianity. For other religions I use the marxist critique of religion in general.

"The universe created itself but God couldn't of created himself cause nothing can create itself"

Not retarded

Just arrogant

It's hypocritical.

Cosmological and Design support the existence of a creator (God)

Dabing on them atheists.

Now scipio i point to the greater question how does a god have any more explantory power rather than pushing it back one step and asking who created god?

It literally has zero more explantory power then the universe creating itself.

They aren't like two different languages: it's more like religion can't support itself without multiple reformations and interpretatios and atheism can explain itself simply through science

Orthodoxy has only had one reformation, and that was just a change of language.

The Big Bang Theory was invented by a Belgian Priest

Remember that

Isaac Newton was a Christian

This is an irrelevant fact to the impact of his newtonian physics

Einstein was a jew

@Huey Long and that's why more liberal denominations like Catholicism are more popular

This is an irrelevant fact to the impact of his special relativity

Atheists originally rejected the Theory because they thought it helped prove the existence of a god

But it doesnt actually create any more explantory power

But what proof is there to go against an eternal creator?

@ᵈˢʳ✪ Catholicism is dying in the West, numbers of participation are increasingly falling. Orthodoxy is only growing, and remains steadfast and true to its principles

To assume a god exists assumes it has more explanatory power than the universe creating itself.