Message from @Tasunke_Witka
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Even though Tribal religious tendencies are strong in even "monotheistic" African peoples .... a lot of the tension in Africa is Islam vs Christian
Democracy does not work in the ME
Tito helped reign in Yugoslavia, but unlike other socialist dictatorships in fractured regions Tito's regime didn't have a clearly established line of succession
Succession is almost more important in these types of Govts than in Monarchies of old
I hear most people in Saudi Arabia are on the govt dole and only a scarce few natives actually work
Something like a 75% labor non participation rate if u include women iirc
Or 50% if u look at men
I don't think Socialist Monarchies are a long term solution ....
But USA has had reason to be "allied" with several of these "Oil socialist" nations.
Especially after Soviet Union fell
Democracy in ME almost always goes to Islamic Theocracy it's just a fact.
That fear stopped Bush Sr from finishing the job in the first gulf war ...
But that was a huge mistake
He should have kept going in first gulf war and oversaw some sort of power transfer
His withdrawal hurt the Kurdish people, in the tens of thousands iirc
Long story short ... Middle East needs fair and free market economies .... imho. One step towards this would be to clear all global debts of IMF and World Bank
This would help out both MENA nations and Mexico
And market economies would potentially help take power out of drug dealers and terrorists
The 2nd Gulf War was unwarranted. But the Sanctions against Iraq were the real crime to the Iraqi people ... the sanctions + the food Blockade.
Iraq's section of ISIS was largely made up of people from Saddams govt and members of the Iraqi Sunni political party
Also, a lot of the reasons Yugoslavia failed after Tito was because of ethnic and religious tensions ... primarily Islam vs Christianity
Islam and Christianity are diametrically opposed ideologies and cannot exist with any real presence in the same Nation
The Turks forced the Bosnians and Albanians to be Muslim
Yep
And The Albanians were some of the most brutal people in the Ottoman Empire
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The Albanians were at the fringe of the Empire, perhaps the newest members ...
I could see the Ottomans treating the Albanians the most harshly to keep their holdings
What do u mean about Albanians being the most brutal?
Many notorious Ottoman generals were Albanian
Haha ... the Suzuku of the Muslims ...
Guess they wanted to become the Knight of One
The Albanian nation was actually created because the world community wanted it to exist after the Balkan wars
They thought Serbia and Greece would take it
Hmm.
Albania existed as part of Italy in 1938
Long before the post Tito Balkan wars
Or as a vassal to Italy
Italy used it as a staging ground for part of their invasion into the rest of Yugoslavia
In 1941