Message from @Ulstèr-Scotch

Discord ID: 327974207000412171


2017-06-24 00:49:28 UTC  

at age 18 for natural-born citizens

2017-06-24 00:49:44 UTC  

I like the idea that nobody is a citizen unless you go through military service

2017-06-24 00:49:59 UTC  

Kind of like how it is in the book "Starship Troopers"

2017-06-24 00:50:05 UTC  

because then being a citizen actually matters

2017-06-24 00:50:17 UTC  

yeah like that, even though it's a satire

2017-06-24 00:50:26 UTC  

The book isn't satire

2017-06-24 00:50:30 UTC  

The movie is

2017-06-24 00:50:33 UTC  

Read the book

2017-06-24 00:50:34 UTC  

yeah except Starship Troopers was a satire of it

2017-06-24 00:50:37 UTC  

^

2017-06-24 00:50:41 UTC  

No it wasn;t you cocks

2017-06-24 00:50:44 UTC  

i thought they were both critiques, just on different things

2017-06-24 00:50:51 UTC  

Robert Heinlein believed in those values

2017-06-24 00:50:54 UTC  

The original was written by a literal fascist

2017-06-24 00:51:02 UTC  

the movie was a satire

2017-06-24 00:51:03 UTC  

ahh i see

2017-06-24 00:51:26 UTC  

the movie is still damn good imo, when you're aware of the critique it's hilarious in a weird way

2017-06-24 00:51:28 UTC  

It's kinda like a Space Age Sparta

2017-06-24 00:52:02 UTC  

or the Germanic Legions the Romans used

2017-06-24 00:52:09 UTC  

whatever their fucking name was

2017-06-24 00:52:24 UTC  

Only citizens can vote, and since all citizens went through military service, the government is always hardline fascism/conservatism

2017-06-24 00:52:55 UTC  

still technically democracy ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

2017-06-24 00:53:04 UTC  

just like the DPRK

2017-06-24 00:53:06 UTC  

lol

2017-06-24 00:53:11 UTC  

what could go wrong

2017-06-24 00:53:25 UTC  

It's not really a democracy

2017-06-24 00:53:32 UTC  

that's p much why democracy isnt inherently virtuous

2017-06-24 00:53:33 UTC  

More, semi-democracy

2017-06-24 00:53:35 UTC  

North Korea has elections

2017-06-24 00:53:45 UTC  

but Kim is the only candidate

2017-06-24 00:53:46 UTC  

Because whoever the leader they vote in always has absolute power

2017-06-24 00:54:02 UTC  

Kim always gets 100% of the vote

2017-06-24 00:54:03 UTC  

isnt that still democracy by definition

2017-06-24 00:54:06 UTC  

He is so popular

2017-06-24 00:54:07 UTC  

North Korea would have worked if they weren't dumb commies

2017-06-24 00:54:10 UTC  

if it isnt rigged of course

2017-06-24 00:54:23 UTC  

No, presidents and prime ministers today do not have absolute power

2017-06-24 00:54:25 UTC  

North Korea wouldn't have existed without COmmies

2017-06-24 00:54:46 UTC  

I do like North Korea's "Juche" though

2017-06-24 00:54:46 UTC  

>North Korea
>Democracy
pick one, really.

2017-06-24 00:54:48 UTC  

yeah but couldnt you have a direct democracy with a dictator that must be voted on