Message from @Vaghar
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He only won in a restircted area of the Deep South and served as a spoiler to stop Democrats from winning elsewhere.
Metokur came back, didn't he
@Nuke A Transexual furry pedophile vs Donald Trump
wtf
@Nuke Just give me the map
Heres mine
No way Trump isn't carrying his home state if D.C., Maryland, and Vermont are tossups tbh.
no way Trump is losing if his opponent is fucking dead
"no way Trump is losing if his opponent is fucking dead"
you're referring to the hypothetical George Wallace matchup?
anyway, when it comes to a hypothetical Donald Trump vs George Wallace matchup, one would need to specify a few things
Is it in 2016 where Trump is the Republican and Wallace is the (dead) Democrat? Presumably not.
Is it in 1968 when Trump was only 22? Presumably not.
Is it in 2016 where Trump is the Republican and someone with the same personality traits and political background that George Wallace had, somehow becomes the Democratic nominee? That would be really implausible. After all, a third party candidate would probably do better than Wallace in that scenario.
However, let's just say that there are only two choices on the ballot. Trump and Wallace. If staying home is an option, then most of the 62 million Trump voters would show up to vote for Trump and only a small minority would prefer Wallace, making Trump win all 50 states + DC. The vast majority of Hillary voters, Johnson voters, and Stein voters would stay home.
If staying home is not an option, there might presumably be some really low info voters who go "hurr fuck Trump let me vote for whoever has the D next to their name" but I don't think that would flip any state...even Alabama or Mississippi.
now, if this hypothetical is in 1968, that would be another story
btw @Earl of Morrrrgantown you seem to have this perception that California and New York are more liberal than Vermont and Massachusetts
I'd say that isn't the case because there are large swaths of red enclaves in California and New York, and they're mostly blue because of high minority populations, many of whom have socially conservative beliefs but vote Democratic due to social programs
whereas Vermont and Massachusetts are blue because they have an abundance of white liberals
IIRC Vermont and Massachusetts are the only states that would still be blue if only white males could vote
Vermont is the only state that would be blue if only gun owners could vote
Thoughts?
"We have helped liberate more people from tyranny and poverty than ever before in history"
"We are a nation of ideals, not blood and soil"
Burn in hell
^
Ideals, Blood, and Soil
Absolute pussy
this is why I've been insisting that just because Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a socialist/Berniecrat, that doesn't mean she's more likely to lose. If anything, she'll be an even stronger opponent than Crowley
It's all about mindset, really
Yeah, if I were him, I'd still put up a fight
Even if I was in the bluest of blue districts, I'd campaign my heart off
try to exploit the fact that Crowley is still on the ballot due to being nominated by the Working Families Party
however, I don't think he got in this to win
Things like Scott Brown, Doug Jones, Conor Lamb will happen in unlikely places if people aren't looking
it probably went like this
>spend decades as a Queens resident who is also Republican
>Queens County Republican Party wants to pick someone to run
>hmm,this guy is 72, has been with us for decades, and is an economics professor. Let's go with him
Scott Brown won because he got in it to win. He ran an energetic primary campaign.
I'm not sure if Doug Jones got in it to win, but he definitely realized he could after Moore's scandals broke out and GOP infighting occured
Lamb was picked as someone who could win given the right strategy
keep this in mind - a large portion of the district are blacks and hispanics. The other large portion are white hipster/yuppie liberals.
ask me this - how would you appeal to those demographics as a Republican? Lamb at least had the benefit of running in an ancestrally Democratic district. There is no viable way to run in New York City as a Republican unless you're an uber liberal who just advocates for lower taxes, and even then - the hispanics/blacks would still vote for Ocasio-Cortez
New York was democratic even when it was majority white
The party has changed for certain but the New York Dem's were certainly not Dixiecrats
there are Republicans who have won in NYC
Michael Bloomberg won because he was literally a billionaire Democrat who ran as a Republican because he couldn't win the Democratic primary. He isn't even a conservative democrat. He's just not far-left
Rudy Giuliani won because Dinkins was a corrupt mayor and the crime rate was super high