Message from @Vaghar

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2018-08-29 02:44:48 UTC  

MY property

2018-08-29 02:44:51 UTC  

not the states

2018-08-29 02:44:58 UTC  

tell me, bud, who protects your property rights?

2018-08-29 02:45:02 UTC  

^

2018-08-29 02:45:05 UTC  

Not to mention

2018-08-29 02:45:20 UTC  

I’m not for abolishment of state

2018-08-29 02:45:24 UTC  

Isnt it also *your* bread, *your* car, *your* profit which you earn?

2018-08-29 02:45:31 UTC  

You know what night watchman state is?

2018-08-29 02:45:42 UTC  

Obviously, I used to be a Minarchist

2018-08-29 02:46:01 UTC  

doesn't pay for itself

2018-08-29 02:46:17 UTC  

property tax in return for ensuring your property rights is certainly very reasonable, is it not?

2018-08-29 02:46:41 UTC  

Libertarianism also certainly doesn't address the border issue.

2018-08-29 02:46:53 UTC  

it is terrible on that, yes

2018-08-29 02:47:01 UTC  

Especially given the breadth of state power necessary to enforce the border and protect demographics in the modern age.

2018-08-29 02:47:10 UTC  

Brb gonna eat

2018-08-29 02:47:17 UTC  

But Lex, America is a melting pot

2018-08-29 02:47:21 UTC  

Stupid bigot

2018-08-29 02:47:26 UTC  

we are selling off our values and culture for cold efficiency

2018-08-29 02:47:37 UTC  

the market is not God

2018-08-29 02:48:02 UTC  

I'm actually not a big fan of the property tax. It's one of the forms of tax which prevent one from ever truly owning their own house.

2018-08-29 02:48:44 UTC  

Though to be serious, open borders would economically be a large benefit in the long run excluding all forms of government handouts. The issue however is that culture and people trump economic progress imo

2018-08-29 02:48:57 UTC  

economically in theory in a vacuum

2018-08-29 02:49:02 UTC  

not how it happens

2018-08-29 02:49:42 UTC  

@[Lex] Depends on where you are. Most places around here go for $5k in taxes a year. My family and I currently rent and that's....... $10k which is considered cheap

2018-08-29 02:49:53 UTC  

The issue with property tax is that you pay it all at once if I recall

2018-08-29 02:50:09 UTC  

driving up the housing prices, lowering the wages, lowering the social trust

2018-08-29 02:50:31 UTC  

only a psychopath would support open borders for economic reasons

2018-08-29 02:51:00 UTC  

at least leftists support it because they're a bunch of delusional virtue signalling fucktards

2018-08-29 02:51:01 UTC  

+ all the poor labour would deepen the consumption economy problem

2018-08-29 02:51:04 UTC  

Though increased spending and a more diverse market would spur more innovation, would it not?

2018-08-29 02:51:11 UTC  

at what cost

2018-08-29 02:51:35 UTC  

Arguably, it'd hinder automation by reducing economic pressure.

2018-08-29 02:51:48 UTC  

the phone's a bit shinier, the camera's a bit better, maybe it costs a bit less

2018-08-29 02:51:59 UTC  

but that comes with a price far larger than it's worth

2018-08-29 02:54:59 UTC  

Economically speaking, which is?

2018-08-29 02:55:02 UTC  

Lowered wages?

2018-08-29 02:55:27 UTC  

Lower wages is one of them, economically speaking

2018-08-29 02:55:48 UTC  

but to me the economy is far in the periphery relative to something like the social trust and identity of a nation

2018-08-29 02:55:59 UTC  

Velocity of money would increase due to the propensity to consume increasing in the economy.

2018-08-29 02:56:05 UTC  

the GDP MEME

2018-08-29 02:56:21 UTC  

+ the debt-to-gdp falling, their credit rating would improve and they'd be able to borrow more