Message from @FLanon

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2018-01-15 00:16:39 UTC  

if the republicans were as enthusiastic to vote for trump's policies as the democrats are to vote against them, we'd have the wall already completely built by now

2018-01-15 00:17:42 UTC  

the fact we even have to make deals is ridiculous

2018-01-15 00:17:55 UTC  

deals _within_ the Republican party

2018-01-15 00:18:04 UTC  

yeah

2018-01-15 00:18:20 UTC  

this is why Trump's gotta mold the GOP

2018-01-15 00:18:47 UTC  

issue is that all that potential may have been squandered after Moore

2018-01-15 00:18:56 UTC  

McConnell has a lot more clout now

2018-01-15 00:19:28 UTC  

The GOP _has_ been united when it comes to Trump's judiciary appointments,

2018-01-15 00:19:31 UTC  

molding the GOP should be something that to focus on after the midterms and after 2020

2018-01-15 00:19:40 UTC  

in Arizona there'll definitely be a better R than Flake up, but what do we do other than that?

2018-01-15 00:19:59 UTC  

it wasn't realistic to try molding it from 2016-2018

2018-01-15 00:20:12 UTC  

sorry, define mold

2018-01-15 00:20:21 UTC  

shift the core

2018-01-15 00:20:41 UTC  

changing it into a specifically Trump/MAGA party, instead of the party of G Dubya Bush / McCain / Romney

2018-01-15 00:20:43 UTC  

make it to where when you think "republican" you think Trump and not Bush/McCain

2018-01-15 00:21:03 UTC  

no amnesty, America First

2018-01-15 00:21:18 UTC  

that kind of thing

2018-01-15 00:21:30 UTC  

so basically, Tom Cotton types?

2018-01-15 00:21:40 UTC  

with more energy

2018-01-15 00:22:10 UTC  

it's hard to think of an example, really

2018-01-15 00:22:20 UTC  

if Moore won, that kind of person

2018-01-15 00:24:11 UTC  

not just immigration hardliners, which is extremely important, but a care for the US in trade, allowing our interests to be beholden to no other nation

2018-01-15 00:24:52 UTC  

Oh oh

2018-01-15 00:25:03 UTC  

Tom Cotton just pointed out something 50 seconds ago,

2018-01-15 00:25:18 UTC  

if Democrats shut down the government over dreamers, it'll cost them

2018-01-15 00:25:48 UTC  

I've heard that angle, not sure if it'll be valid, but it's worth a shot

2018-01-15 00:26:16 UTC  

If Congress can't pass a budget in 5 days, it'll happen

2018-01-15 00:26:22 UTC  

I think personally Trump set the 'DACA deal' up to fail

2018-01-15 00:26:40 UTC  

yeah I know, I'm focusing more on DACA than the shutdown

2018-01-15 00:27:44 UTC  

Trump's been placing the blame on the inevitable fall of the deal on DACA, where he can frame that as the Dems screwing up

2018-01-15 00:29:25 UTC  

It's like a catch-22, if no deal is made, the Dems couldn't save the Dreamers when the Rs were willing to make a deal, if a deal is made, then a shift in the immigration system will have less legal immigration which will cost Dems, also Trump would get the wall which may make Dems look weak.

2018-01-15 00:29:56 UTC  

I don't know how the average voter would interpret it, but fingers are crossed all things considered

2018-01-15 00:31:38 UTC  

"I don't know how the average voter would interpret it,"

yeah, that's the thing

2018-01-15 00:31:56 UTC  

many leftists and minorities will still turn out for the Democrats regardless

2018-01-15 00:32:04 UTC  

I don't even know if DACA is going to be relevant in 10 months

2018-01-15 00:32:17 UTC  

probably not as much were it not for Trump's move

2018-01-15 00:33:35 UTC  

We'll see about what it does, I hope Trump has a good strategy in mind

2018-01-15 00:33:43 UTC  

I think we're better off getting Trumpians and neverTrumpers to turn out along with getting moderates and independents on our side

2018-01-15 00:33:48 UTC  

than to try to depress leftist turnout

2018-01-15 00:34:19 UTC  

you're better off trying to get a leftist to abandon the left first than to convince them not to vote

2018-01-15 00:34:34 UTC  

btw, someone should bump the general