Message from @Kebab Removalist

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2018-09-02 23:32:24 UTC  

Nah.

2018-09-02 23:33:34 UTC  

well, i would hardly call palesteinians in the 1st century cavemen

2018-09-02 23:33:45 UTC  

eh

2018-09-02 23:33:53 UTC  

You can have that opinion if you want.

2018-09-02 23:33:58 UTC  

But I know a worse god.

2018-09-02 23:34:09 UTC  

Which one?

2018-09-02 23:34:46 UTC  

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2018-09-02 23:34:56 UTC  

allah is the same god... lel

2018-09-02 23:35:00 UTC  

yeaaaaaaah

2018-09-02 23:35:16 UTC  

Wrong.

2018-09-02 23:35:18 UTC  

jewdism, christianity, and islam have the same god mitch

2018-09-02 23:35:22 UTC  

Not at all.

2018-09-02 23:35:37 UTC  

They are all different.

2018-09-02 23:35:37 UTC  

yup, they all worship the same god

2018-09-02 23:35:56 UTC  

Atheists tend to think they are all the same, which is ignorant thinking.

2018-09-02 23:36:14 UTC  

So, what is the difference?

2018-09-02 23:37:29 UTC  

🤔

2018-09-02 23:37:41 UTC  

The better question is what *is* the differences.

2018-09-02 23:37:57 UTC  

Mitch is like " duh.. Batman and Bruce Wayne is not the same guy... "

2018-09-02 23:38:41 UTC  

But at the end of the day... Batman and his god is just a made up comic hero

2018-09-02 23:38:55 UTC  

And a bad one in the case of god

2018-09-02 23:38:56 UTC  

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2018-09-02 23:39:07 UTC  

That's not what I am saying at all.

2018-09-02 23:39:27 UTC  

Prove to me that they are the same god.

2018-09-02 23:39:52 UTC  

Change the subject then huh.

2018-09-02 23:40:03 UTC  

This is religious debate.

2018-09-02 23:40:14 UTC  

Smh.

2018-09-02 23:40:58 UTC  

section 3

2018-09-02 23:48:22 UTC  

Hm.

2018-09-03 08:04:06 UTC  

hm

2018-09-03 09:09:23 UTC  

Hm

2018-09-03 09:11:37 UTC  

Also yeah Islam, Jewdism and Christianity have the same God, it goes old testament -> new testament -> Qur'an

2018-09-03 09:12:44 UTC  

Where they all go, "yeah God's chosen dude? Not that guy it's this guy" and everyone was completely okay with it and nothing bad ever happened because of it

2018-09-03 09:54:03 UTC  

@I-VaPE-ChEMtrAiLS I'm not a religious person, but I can already tell that you know very little about the Abrahamic faiths. In Judaism, they only believe in the first-five books of the Old Testament, which they call the; "Torah" and they believe in only YHWH god deity, which I would consider to be the Demiurge=El Saturn himself. In Islam, they also believe in only 1 god, however, Allah is not truly personal, knowable, or approachable. The Qur’an depicts him more judgmental than gracious. He exists as a singular unity who has no *partners.* In fact, to call Jesus the Son of God is to commit the unpardonable sin, or shirk. Of the 99 names for God in the Qur’an, Father is not one of them. In Islam, it is considered blasphemous to *presume* that one can know God or claim any sort of close, personal fellowship with Allah. He reveals his will, not himself. The Bible depicts God as He knows us; but more than that, He is knowable and approachable. He created us in His image with personality, thought, and will for the purpose of enjoying an everlasting, unbreakable, intimate relationship with Him. He exists as a Trinity in eternal relationship as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. In fact, God is so knowable, He came in the flesh as Jesus of Nazareth according to the Christian teachings, so they are not the same "God", when you take different personalities and Jesus into consideration, but I myself do have some crticism of the OT & some of the NT passages, and I believe that they seem to be having a connection with what the Gnostics would refer to as the Demiurge, but just under different names/cultures.

2018-09-03 13:32:15 UTC  

Wait, are you saying jews and Christians don't worship the same god?

2018-09-03 13:32:50 UTC  

Or just Muslims worship a different god? @Livxly Dxll

2018-09-03 13:56:24 UTC  

Ok I was mostly oversimplifiing tov make a joke there and not wanting to start anything. Also you say you aren't religious yet have the thesit tag <:thonk:485324336874651650> but I'm like 90% that the one abarhamic god is written about in all three of those religions.

Why would it matter if Jesus was the son of God to a Muslim if a Muslim rejected the idea of god having a son in the first place it wouldn't factor in to the god that they worship right?

The idea of god being kind and loving is also one that came in and out of "fashion" across the testimants. If God can change from more harsh to less harsh in the new testament surely it's not out of the picture to assume he can go back to being harsher. Just because he changed doesn't mean he is a new god.

Especially if what the Qur'an says about Jesus predicting Muhammad would come being true, as well as the many references to Jesus in the Qur'an and the idea that Jesus will fight on behalf of Allah and describe himself as a follower of Islam.

Your way of disputing the idea that the same God is worshiped across all 3 seems quite biased towards a Christian veiw.

2018-09-03 21:09:09 UTC  

It is the same God

2018-09-03 21:09:25 UTC  

The difference in the religions is each sides take on what that God actually is

2018-09-03 21:09:43 UTC  

In this sense, Light is correct