Message from @DrPeper

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2018-09-12 08:17:16 UTC  

you know, the topic of the coversation

2018-09-12 08:17:40 UTC  

slaves seems to be the ongoing theme

2018-09-12 08:18:10 UTC  

it is an example we used

2018-09-12 08:18:46 UTC  

of how the bible can be used to support two contradictory sides

2018-09-12 08:19:08 UTC  

its pretty concerning how your reply to "has a verse telling ppl to buy slaves" was "whats bothers u about buying slaves"

2018-09-12 08:19:19 UTC  

if you use eisogesis without exegesis, yes, you can gather a false idea

2018-09-12 08:19:44 UTC  

so people didnt use the bible to support both sides

2018-09-12 08:20:13 UTC  

my bad, i guess ill just go inform all the history books about slavery in the US to change things

2018-09-12 08:20:37 UTC  

bro, the rabbit hole is pretty deep

2018-09-12 08:20:45 UTC  

sounds the alars =]

2018-09-12 08:20:51 UTC  

alarms

2018-09-12 08:21:20 UTC  

so, you dont see a problem with the bible being used for both sides?

2018-09-12 08:21:30 UTC  

What's esiogesis and exegesis?

2018-09-12 08:22:20 UTC  

your meaning vs intended meaning

2018-09-12 08:22:27 UTC  

eisogesis is like bouncing ideas off verses to gather meaning, exegesis is understanding scripture as it is written and the culture it was written to, and the original meaning

2018-09-12 08:22:49 UTC  

both are important

2018-09-12 08:22:49 UTC  

Both sound flawed

2018-09-12 08:23:42 UTC  

if it can used to justify any position then what makes you think you interpretation of the bible is correct

2018-09-12 08:24:30 UTC  

i believe the way i understand the bible fits exegetically

2018-09-12 08:24:48 UTC  

i will tell you how i feel about things like the authors intended meaning and trying to study that and sticking to it. It doesnt really matter what the author meant to say. All that matters is what people get out of it. If the author did a good enough job then people will get what the author intended. However, everyone is differnt they see things differnt. So if you get something differnt out of it. So what, its your personal views

2018-09-12 08:25:33 UTC  

again, thats a general statement not just aimed at the bible

2018-09-12 08:25:47 UTC  

i believe the bible, as its written, and as the holy spirit leads me

2018-09-12 08:26:26 UTC  

and let it lead you how you think it does, but you cant be surprised when someone differnt from you sees the bible saying much differnt things

2018-09-12 08:26:47 UTC  

As the holy spirit leads you seems like you allow your own baises to lead your reading

2018-09-12 08:26:53 UTC  

again, eisogesis should be in line with exegesis

2018-09-12 08:27:00 UTC  

but it isnt

2018-09-12 08:27:02 UTC  

it wont be

2018-09-12 08:27:17 UTC  

it was written 2000 years ago, people are differnt

2018-09-12 08:27:36 UTC  

people view the world differntly then people 2000 years ago did

2018-09-12 08:27:43 UTC  

you dont understand so it cant be, is that your arguement?

2018-09-12 08:28:36 UTC  

no, my arguement is that its a written text and people view things differently and sometimes in a contradictory way.

2018-09-12 08:28:58 UTC  

so its impossible to have a one size fits all aproach

2018-09-12 08:29:18 UTC  

which is what you are saying

2018-09-12 08:29:26 UTC  

^^^

2018-09-12 08:29:32 UTC  

i said before everyone has a very personal relationship with Jesus Christ

2018-09-12 08:29:54 UTC  

which would be a reason why a text cant fit everyone

2018-09-12 08:30:03 UTC  

so it doesnt have a particular intrepretation

2018-09-12 08:30:10 UTC  

cant fit and agree with everyone

2018-09-12 08:30:12 UTC  

[1 John 2:27]

2018-09-12 08:30:13 UTC  

2018-09-12 08:30:43 UTC  

yes what fluff said. There cant be one solid definit meaning