Message from @Ivan Pavlovich

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2019-04-19 03:21:33 UTC  

~~darwinian evil-ution~~ \ ❌

2019-04-19 15:23:49 UTC  

If evolution happened why isn’t it seen today in some form

2019-04-19 15:45:03 UTC  

It is on small scales @Depression2405 .

2019-04-19 15:45:33 UTC  

Its not

2019-04-19 15:46:04 UTC  

You don't see species changing species

2019-04-19 15:52:54 UTC  

Yes. Species do not change into other species

2019-04-19 15:57:25 UTC  

"Researchers from Princeton University and Uppsala University in Sweden report that the newcomer belonging to one species mated with a member of another species resident on the island, giving rise to a new species that today consists of roughly 30 individuals." https://phys.org/news/2017-11-galapagos-species.html

2019-04-19 15:59:13 UTC  

@Depression2405 There are many examples of animals evolving in different environments to be kept alive or left alone by predators

2019-04-19 16:00:02 UTC  

We witness the jump from single-celled to multi-celled in under 11 months. Multiply that by about a billion and you get the picture.

2019-04-19 16:00:59 UTC  

Oh wow, that's some cool stuff @Credibly Charted .

2019-04-19 16:01:27 UTC  

I love hearing all the stories of how humans have accidentally caused adaptation.

2019-04-19 16:01:36 UTC  

Haha, indeed

2019-04-19 16:02:27 UTC  

It's a small example of an animal changing to keep it's survival but also a big step in the way of proving evolution/adaptation to environment in the animal kingdom

2019-04-19 16:03:16 UTC  

I don't think anybody denies adaptation. Lots of creationists even accept species changes.

2019-04-19 16:03:26 UTC  

Such as Ken Ham.

2019-04-19 16:04:16 UTC  

It's new "kinds" (whatever that means) that they want to see directly.

2019-04-19 16:04:23 UTC  

Is the thing about evolution like how humans evolved from apes and whatnot?

2019-04-19 16:04:36 UTC  

Yeah

2019-04-19 16:05:08 UTC  

Makes sense

2019-04-19 16:13:32 UTC  

What made these species?

2019-04-19 16:21:46 UTC  

It tells you in the articles.

2019-04-19 16:24:30 UTC  

Environmental pressures trigger natural selection. The tuskless elephants had an advantage because poachers wouldn't want to hunt them. The algae went multicellular because paramecia were hunting them. It's a lot easier to survive the onslaught when you've got many cells than when you've got only one.

2019-04-19 17:45:12 UTC  

What made the environmental pressures

2019-04-19 17:45:28 UTC  

What designed the life

2019-04-19 18:01:09 UTC  

@Credibly Charted it is called adapting

2019-04-19 18:12:42 UTC  

@Ivan Pavlovich wouldn’t we be able to see the in between stages of evolution to be able to prove it

2019-04-19 18:29:07 UTC  

@Depression2405 Eehhhhhhh.... It would support large-scale evolution, but it wouldn't prove it. I may be nitpicking here, but *all* adaptations fall under "evolution". It's just that when people hear "evolution", they think of large-scale changes. So, those changes you see do prove evolution because they *are* evolution, but you really can't extrapolate that to large-scale changes without more evidence.

2019-04-19 18:31:41 UTC  

As for Citizen's questions, 1. The environmental pressures came from nature. Some are applied by humans, some by predators, and others are just consequences of local conditions. 2. Who says life was designed?

2019-04-19 19:32:19 UTC  

@Citizen Z Nothing "made" them

2019-04-19 19:32:49 UTC  

The things just adapted to things they were surrounded with

2019-04-19 22:12:57 UTC  

Nothing?

2019-04-19 22:13:06 UTC  

Whats nothing?

2019-04-19 22:33:48 UTC  

So wait @Ivan Pavlovich even if there was small changes you would see something, for an example, between a man and an ape at some point in the present or something leading to it or even possibly in the past there would be proof of a thing between man and ape; but no one has ever found such proof. This is why Darwin himself said that his theory of evolution was false.

2019-04-20 02:30:58 UTC  

@Depression2405 I know of this

2019-04-20 02:41:03 UTC  

But do you believe it

2019-04-20 02:43:22 UTC  

The evidence proves it so it isn't something to believe but either be ignorant of or acknowledge it @Depression2405

2019-04-20 04:29:09 UTC  

Alright, @yeeet the Savior has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-04-20 04:29:42 UTC  

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