Message from @Koro

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2019-03-16 20:22:30 UTC  

@Lancelot i habe kwestion

2019-03-16 20:22:44 UTC  

if it would be scientifically proven to be effective, it would render HPV vaccines obsolete

2019-03-16 20:22:45 UTC  

Alright, @Mediterranean Salad has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-03-16 20:23:01 UTC  

ask me anything Ajay

2019-03-16 20:23:17 UTC  

what is inside vax?

2019-03-16 20:25:47 UTC  

i think the problem comes more to the point of having to take it each day

2019-03-16 20:26:02 UTC  

which makes the vaccine slightly easier and more likely cheaper

2019-03-16 20:27:31 UTC  

also the main reason is to reduce cervical cancer right? so having people take supplements while is a good thing the issue of personally choice that give the opportunity for it to continue to be an issue instead of eradicating it due to people not trusting it. in my country it is very difficult to withdraw ur child from the hpv vaccine

2019-03-16 20:28:49 UTC  

also it's nice to see there's someone who actually has a good understanding and isn't just vaccine bad vaccine causes autism and then just pulls out some study that was done in the interest of proving that it causes autism and hasn't been peer reviewed

2019-03-16 20:32:16 UTC  

when it comes to what is inside it, there are other compounds that are highly suspected, not all vaccines contain them, but some do depending on what the insert says or lab results show (you can do by sampling a vaccine and taking it to the lab)

2019-03-16 20:37:19 UTC  

examples are thimerosal, an organic compound of mercury and polysorbate 80, which has been associated with ovary problems (including infertility) and there are some humans allergic to it (or have adverse response).
Although the scientific community claims thimerosal has been removed from all vaccines, you can refute this claim by just looking at the inserts. Example 1: tetanus shot from Bilthoven biologicals still contains thimerosal and has therefore a warning to not administer it to pregnant women
Example 2: Flulaval (flu vaccine made by GSK) says on label it contains thimerosal, confirmed via ICP-MS
to such an extend, if there would be a vaccine competitor using no suspicious compounds, that company is likely to win the competition in the current situation

2019-03-16 20:38:18 UTC  

Here's a study about adverse reactions to polysorbate 80: https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/pharmacology-toxicology-and-pharmaceutical-science/polysorbate-80
a solution would be a pre-screening to test for allergy for that compound, if positive, polysorbate 80 containing vaccines shouldn't be administered

2019-03-16 20:40:34 UTC  

for HPV, pap smears are far more effective, it actually should be done for women 25 years and older

2019-03-16 20:40:42 UTC  

or if they suspect it

2019-03-16 20:41:17 UTC  

yeah it's very effective but the lead cause of cervical cancer is getting HPV iirc

2019-03-16 20:41:38 UTC  

indeed

2019-03-16 20:42:01 UTC  

but yeah pap smears are very important as well, i'd be an idiot to deny that

2019-03-16 20:45:06 UTC  

to some extend, there's some debate about measles, it could cause complications and death, but hygiene and good nutrition (vitamin A and C) make it less severe. Reasons are that measles makes you more vurnable to other pathogens that make it harder for the immune system to fight. Good hygiene would make you less vurnable to other pathogens. The pro however is that if you survive measles (happens in majority), you'll get immune from it for the rest of your life

2019-03-16 20:45:17 UTC  

to test for immunity, ask for a blood titer

2019-03-16 20:46:27 UTC  

did you know that some measles cases were actually misdiagnosed as such and actually cases of the reaction to the MMR vaccine?

2019-03-16 20:46:53 UTC  

good hygiene is improving but i would argue good nutrition is not going the same way

2019-03-16 20:47:36 UTC  

yeah a couple people in my year got measles like symptoms after the MMR vaccine

2019-03-16 20:47:37 UTC  

there's been proof that vitamin A deficiency is a major cause of higher mortality in measles cases

2019-03-16 20:47:49 UTC  

yeah i don't doubt that

2019-03-16 20:48:25 UTC  

it would be reasonable to give a patient with this both vitamin A supplements as well as high dose vitamin C (including IV)

2019-03-16 20:49:20 UTC  

yeah definitely although generally when u start eating really healthy after u get ill it's not usually effective

2019-03-16 20:50:09 UTC  

with vitamin C iv however, you have 100% absorption rate, 50 grams of it is used regularly which is equal to 1000 oranges

2019-03-16 20:51:03 UTC  

yeah true

2019-03-16 20:52:49 UTC  

there was even a woman with Zika virus, who'se got vitamin C IV for 3 days, day 1 25 gram, day 2 50 gram and day 3 75 gram. She eventually got cured from this disease

2019-03-16 20:53:27 UTC  

vitamin C is the ammo for your immune system if that's a machine gun

2019-03-16 21:01:38 UTC  

yeah that is a very high dosage tho

2019-03-16 21:03:01 UTC  

she's had no adverse symptoms from that vitamin C however

2019-03-16 21:03:35 UTC  

have you ever tried a vitamin C IV? if not, would you try one if you think you need one?

2019-03-16 21:04:17 UTC  

if it's all being used by ur body there won't be side effects but if it isn't there will be

2019-03-16 21:04:35 UTC  

i've never tried it but if i needed it i would

2019-03-16 21:05:26 UTC  

in Germany, this treatment is used by a doctor with high reputation known as Wieger Rekker, who practices in Gronau

2019-03-16 21:05:49 UTC  

he uses it as a cancer treatment, even Dutch patients have been going to him for treating cancer

2019-03-16 21:08:49 UTC  

that's an interesting idea actually, i think that using it in combination with something like chemo could be very effective especially in later stages of cancer and definitely something that would be interesting to learn more about in early stages as ik the immune system can fight cancer

2019-03-16 21:09:17 UTC  

well, that has been shown to decrease or eliminate adverse reactions from chemo

2019-03-16 21:09:34 UTC  

but I think patients who had chemo should later get pro-neurogenerative substances