Message from @Pfonaes🤡🌎

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2019-03-17 20:23:50 UTC  

but the twin studies they use, have not included the geneXenvironment factor

2019-03-17 20:24:05 UTC  

meaning genes interacting with the environment

2019-03-17 20:24:29 UTC  

while the studies showing GeneXenvironment factor show that autism is epigenetic, not genetic

2019-03-17 20:24:57 UTC  

which could explain the significant increase in autism, change in diagnosis is responsible for just a 56% increase

2019-03-17 20:25:19 UTC  

it went from 1 in 10k to 1 in 36 in the US

2019-03-17 20:25:34 UTC  

in the Netherlands, it's about 1 in 100 or 1 in 50 (possibly overestimation)

2019-03-17 20:27:01 UTC  

air pollution, water pollution and other environmental factors shouldn't be forgotten

2019-03-17 20:28:36 UTC  

not to even forget the influence from birth control pills, which contain hormones

2019-03-17 20:28:50 UTC  

what the hormones do to a fetus' brain is unknown

2019-03-17 20:29:17 UTC  

there has never been an increase in autism, only an increase in diagnosis because of a better understanding of the disorder. that was a poor correlation to make.

2019-03-17 20:30:35 UTC  

I've always expected this to be one argument for the increase

2019-03-17 20:32:18 UTC  

on the associated genes, what are the functions of those genes in the first place?

2019-03-17 20:35:18 UTC  

focusing on environmental factors, even prenatal (depends on what the pregnant mother consumes) is important...
Why are the autism cases so low in Poland, Taiwan, China and the Netherlands?

2019-03-17 20:38:57 UTC  

you are somewhat correct with some disorders being caused by what a mother eats/drinks (for example, too much alcohol) but you have the complete wrong idea. immune system memory is different to consumption, it is passed on to the child for a while but it makes no difference to genes before birth. in fact they go away after a while, that's why kids fall ill often.

2019-03-17 20:39:29 UTC  

genes can mutate

2019-03-17 20:39:40 UTC  

sometimes there are environmental factors mutating the genes

2019-03-17 20:41:38 UTC  

oh and to autism correlation, that wouldn't be a reliable point to prove as not everyone gets diagnosed and there could just be potentially less than other countries, and population is also a factor.
although there is always an average, there is never an exact amount everywhere.

2019-03-17 20:43:34 UTC  

so we need a control group

2019-03-17 20:45:52 UTC  

when it comes to percentage, it's about how it has grown

2019-03-17 20:47:55 UTC  

However, isn't it preferred to have autism over dying at a young age from an easily preventable disease

2019-03-17 20:49:46 UTC  

it depends on which disease, just compare the US vaccine schedule to other nations' vaccine schedules

2019-03-17 20:51:00 UTC  

in general, they shouldn't be mandatory either, as that further escalates the whole situation

2019-03-17 20:51:39 UTC  

as the cumulative aluminum exposure has increased, it can be correlated with autism on multiple ways, not just through injection. Also through the brain studies

2019-03-17 20:53:02 UTC  

1 mcg/g dry wt. aluminum is pathologically benign

2019-03-17 20:53:34 UTC  

autism is still not nearly as bad as the multitudes of old world diseases one could contract, and, even if true, is still in extremely minute and rare cases. if nothing else, this is a matter of simply "which is worse" or even "which is riskier" to an extent

2019-03-17 20:55:12 UTC  

that's true

2019-03-17 20:55:45 UTC  

but having this diagnosis for live sounds defeatist from a philosophical standpoint

2019-03-17 20:56:30 UTC  

infection diseases are treatable. To some extend, vaccines that don't contain aluminum exist

2019-03-17 20:58:50 UTC  

if further research should be done on this, then more brain tissues of people diagnosed with ASD who died should be measured (either GF-AAS, ICP-AES or ICP-MS)

2019-03-17 20:59:40 UTC  

otherwise it's a matter of taking some biopts from the brain tissue, which is going to cost more money (surgeon costs)

2019-03-17 21:03:25 UTC  

one of the investigated inviduals had high levels of aluminum in her drinking water (chronic exposure)

2019-03-17 21:07:33 UTC  

furthermore, saying that kids are going to die if they don't take certain vaccines is a flawed argument to state that it's OK for children to suffer vaccine (induced) injury to prevent diseases they could've been exposed to

2019-03-17 21:09:14 UTC  

thimerosal is known to decrease methionine production through inhibiting the enzyme MS

2019-03-17 21:10:11 UTC  
2019-03-17 21:10:34 UTC  

one of the causes is disordered methylation

2019-03-17 21:17:08 UTC  

how is it a flawed argument when these cases of dangerous vaccines are less than a fraction of a percent

2019-03-17 21:17:17 UTC  

this is the exact result of blowing up a problem that barely exists

2019-03-17 21:18:29 UTC  

there's so many other harmful side effects to other daily facets of life like food chemicals that are FDA sanctioned yet you choose to waste your time because autism is the worst thing that can ever happen to a person

2019-03-17 21:18:49 UTC  

Sure it doesn't mean someone's going to flat out die without a vaccine