Message from @AstralSentient

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2019-02-26 16:48:34 UTC  

Or if they are killed via the death penalty

2019-02-26 16:50:07 UTC  

Yes I see that point most people who are in prison don't come back after they have had proper help and support, only a few would come back

2019-02-26 16:51:06 UTC  

I think an immediate question that needs to be raised is on the evidence that capital punishment reduces crime rates by deterrence. If so, it might be worth instituting it as part of the criminal justice system.

2019-02-26 16:51:21 UTC  

I agree

2019-02-26 16:52:36 UTC  

Is there a negative correlation between executions and murders? In other words, do executions lower the murder rates?

2019-02-26 16:52:53 UTC  

Criminals should still have rights and most of the time it's just that they made mistake or got mixed in the wrong people

2019-02-26 16:53:27 UTC  

For evidence see Norway's prison system

2019-02-26 16:53:37 UTC  

And, there is the problem of executing an innocent person. Hopefully with todays technology and system, the odds are near zero

2019-02-26 16:54:40 UTC  

Norway has very low crime rate, very few prisoners and is one of the safest countries

2019-02-26 16:54:52 UTC  

If you imprison an innocent person, and figure it out. You can reimburse them.

2019-02-26 16:55:19 UTC  

@tha cheeseburger What is their secret to low crime?

2019-02-26 16:55:35 UTC  

U.S. struggles with it much more

2019-02-26 16:55:49 UTC  

Few commit crimes after leaving

2019-02-26 16:55:59 UTC  

Rehabilitation?

2019-02-26 16:56:06 UTC  

Yes

2019-02-26 16:56:22 UTC  

They give out education as well

2019-02-26 16:57:03 UTC  

I think mandatory rehab would be a much better alternative than minimum sentencing for the drug war.

2019-02-26 16:57:26 UTC  

Their biggest prison is just a few wooden houses on a island and a few guards

2019-02-26 16:58:07 UTC  

No one has broken out it works really well, u don't have a reason to leave

2019-02-26 16:58:51 UTC  

They can just have casual conversations with the guards, they have no guns on them I think

2019-02-26 16:59:17 UTC  

Places like Guantanamo bay used to torture prisoners, U.S. based.

2019-02-26 16:59:51 UTC  

Every prison system should be like Norway's

2019-02-26 16:59:55 UTC  

IMO

2019-02-26 16:59:57 UTC  

The CIA used to waterboarding to simulate drowning to force suspected terrorists to give out information.

2019-02-26 17:00:25 UTC  

Yes and how else could they have gotten info

2019-02-26 17:00:39 UTC  

They actually did studies on torture

2019-02-26 17:00:49 UTC  

And found out it isn't very effective

2019-02-26 17:01:02 UTC  

The prisoners often gave out false information

2019-02-26 17:01:42 UTC  

It's not but if u made good relationships with prisoners they would be more likely to give info

2019-02-26 17:01:48 UTC  

Indeed

2019-02-26 17:02:21 UTC  

The prison system in the UK where I live is just shit

2019-02-26 17:02:57 UTC  

The U.S. has more prisoners than any other country I think

2019-02-26 17:03:15 UTC  

U can get a few years by just having a knife outside

2019-02-26 17:04:36 UTC  

Yea it's the country of the free and it's has the most people in prison

2019-02-26 17:04:42 UTC  

🤔

2019-02-26 17:06:10 UTC  

America sounds like a shit place rn, u don't even have free health care

2019-02-26 17:06:33 UTC  

Whats going on here

2019-02-26 17:07:10 UTC  

Anyone want to debate on something else

2019-02-26 17:07:10 UTC  

Debating capital punishments

2019-02-26 17:07:22 UTC  

Sure what?

2019-02-26 17:07:46 UTC  

What religion u have