Message from @nef

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2019-03-17 01:49:05 UTC  

political group i was a part of

2019-03-17 01:49:49 UTC  

are you talking about the roles?

2019-03-17 01:50:40 UTC  

yes

2019-03-17 01:50:56 UTC  

they are a bit outdated

2019-03-17 01:51:02 UTC  

i don't know how to change them

2019-03-17 01:54:13 UTC  

ok, i think it is more lined up to what i believe now

2019-03-17 02:27:07 UTC  

@Ætos i'll take an explaination. it'd be cool to get an insight

2019-03-17 02:27:31 UTC  

Alright, knock yourself out, I’ll do my best to answer with what I know.

2019-03-17 02:27:58 UTC  

*Unless you just want me to explain random shit that I’ve heard about it.*

2019-03-17 02:28:03 UTC  

I could do that too

2019-03-17 02:28:06 UTC  

is it just the notorious sun moves parrell to moon?

2019-03-17 02:28:26 UTC  

Sort of, yeah.

2019-03-17 02:28:36 UTC  

nevermind then that's been debunked at least 540k times.

2019-03-17 02:29:36 UTC  

They actually move in a weird pattern. FEs needed to explain seasons, so they figured out that if you have that, but the sun is also moving in a slowly spiraling pattern above the “flat plane”, then seasons can also work with that model.

2019-03-17 02:30:35 UTC  

I think the estimate for how far away the Sun is on an FE model is ~3k miles up, but not many FEs will commit to that as it has minimal support even in that community.

2019-03-17 02:30:37 UTC  

but the sun moving further dosen't effect energy enough to cause such a temperature difference

2019-03-17 02:30:53 UTC  

It would if the sun was actually really fucking small.

2019-03-17 02:31:01 UTC  

And in FE

2019-03-17 02:31:07 UTC  

The sun is really fucking small

2019-03-17 02:31:12 UTC  

what makes them think that?

2019-03-17 02:31:16 UTC  

their perspective?

2019-03-17 02:31:39 UTC  

Well, if the earth is flat, then nearly by definition, all other aspects of cosmology must be false

2019-03-17 02:31:56 UTC  

do they agree every other body in space is flat as well?

2019-03-17 02:32:02 UTC  

Therefore other explanations need to be made for the sun, moon, stars, etc

2019-03-17 02:32:09 UTC  

Most would say “inconclusive”

2019-03-17 02:32:23 UTC  

Some think the sun, moon, planets are also flat disks.

2019-03-17 02:32:29 UTC  

Some think they’re spheres

2019-03-17 02:32:48 UTC  

One guy here thinks that the planets are the physical embodiments of demons, even.

2019-03-17 02:32:49 UTC  

so even the flat earth community isn't fully agreeing with eachother.

2019-03-17 02:32:53 UTC  

oh dear.

2019-03-17 02:33:09 UTC  

I don't even think demons or anything paranormal exists.

2019-03-17 02:33:15 UTC  

There is very little agreement in the community aside from some major basic points.

2019-03-17 02:34:43 UTC  

Those points are:

The earth is flat.

Space and celestial science is not what NASA says.

We have been lied to about a lotta shit.

2019-03-17 02:35:21 UTC  

oh okay

2019-03-17 02:35:43 UTC  

For instance, a big point of contention is the “dome”.

2019-03-17 02:36:37 UTC  

Many flat earthers reference the Bible or other religious books, stating that the “firmament” mentioned there is solid.

2019-03-17 02:36:56 UTC  

This implies a huge dome like shell around the earth

2019-03-17 02:37:13 UTC  

It looks sort of like the world inside a snow globe.

2019-03-17 02:37:17 UTC  

lmao

2019-03-17 02:37:28 UTC  

Meanwhile, others say, “That’s a load of shit.”

2019-03-17 02:37:47 UTC  

They think the world continues extending on for a very long distance, an unknown distance.