Message from @Pinnaplia
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I thought it was not knowing
Whether there was or wasn't
Well then probably not
Oh wait it's both
The definition of atheist I take to is a person who isnt convinced by a god or gods
Wut
Words mate
That's why you always gotta clarify the definitions before going into a debate
If you care about it, that is
Yeah, I've had so many agreements when that was the only inhibitor
@Credibly Charted isn't God supposedly omnibenevolent and omnipotent?
Yeah
It's funny actually because that's the definition of God that can be disproven, and theres this quote I love which goes
The only part of that, that I don't beleive in is Omnicient.
"If God is omnibenevolent and omnipotent, then, as there is evil on earth, is he capable of stopping evil but does not do so? Then he is not omnibenevolent. And if he is willing to stop evil, but cannot, then he must not be omnipotent.
And if he is neither... Then why call him a god?"
It doesn't go exactly like that but that's the idea
Ah thats nice, but if everything about god is true, then he must not be omnibenevolent, as Earth looks like an expieriment
@Pinnaplia you can't believe in omnipotence without believing in omniscience
Omnipotence includes omniscience
If so, our definition is relative as we cannot comprehend what Omnipotence is, so it would just mean power and knowlage beyond our understanding.
But yes you did correct me
For everyone debating with me about how east works on a globe have a look at this please https://youtu.be/rfunPaUrWwo
Omnipotence, by definition, means all powerful
Aka with the power to do anything
And it's impossible
I can disprove any omnipotent being you believe in with one dare
Ask that omnipotent being to create an object so heavy that he himself cannot lift it
Well, what if that being possed all the power in the universe, then as long as "anything" is limited to the bounds of everything possible, then he could be all powerful.
No that's not all powerful
Very very powerful beyond our understanding isn't omnipotent
True
Omnipotence is very specifically the power to do all things
But I'm trying to give you a better definition of God
I like that one the rock too heavy for god to lift
Your definition of God is like that of many others, by elimination
God cannot be omnipotent, so just make him very very powerful
God also can't be omnibenevolent because there's evil (not good wtf me) on the earth so... Insert whatever reason here
Im not trying to do that, I'm just saying if religious people wanted their definition to be correct, this is the closest thing they could get.
Aight I slightly misunderstood you