Message from @Mr.J

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2018-09-04 19:23:41 UTC  

not voice chatting

2018-09-04 19:23:43 UTC  

O

2018-09-04 19:23:54 UTC  

Its weird without it being in person

2018-09-04 19:24:58 UTC  

mmmmkay just saying its probably more a product of experince/you.... just saying a lot of people do it, it just takes time to get used to

2018-09-04 19:27:40 UTC  

Maybe in time I will give it a try

2018-09-04 19:27:42 UTC  

But not today

2018-09-04 19:28:47 UTC  

πŸ˜„ times all we have, I'll look forward to the day you join us. So what are your beliefes in the potential of dream like states of altered reality?

2018-09-04 19:30:10 UTC  

In a altered what

2018-09-04 19:32:34 UTC  

you know how you can "see" behind closed eye's, and dreams are in essence "you" within a "reality" of unrealistic constraints? well have you studied the potential intensities/complexities of "that" state of minds ability to expand your understanding and ability to harness/embody greater passions etc

2018-09-04 19:33:50 UTC  

O

2018-09-04 19:34:01 UTC  

You mean realistic dreams or something

2018-09-04 19:34:57 UTC  

I just mean have you looked into the art of expanding this state of mind

2018-09-04 19:35:40 UTC  

No

2018-09-04 19:38:49 UTC  

okay, well from what I've read over the years I've found that one source of true freedom lies within this state of mind. Being that once you can embody passion/emotional focus of willpower etc these "dreams" will grow in length/intensity/complexity etc and for some they last days upon weeks etc every night; some learn to "keep" the dream going in the background, where they blink and focus for a bit and are there again etc, a lot of meditation in later stages comes down to "dreaming" reality and in turn reality becomes the dream, and thus "your" reality becomes an expression of dream like nature, but by that point your dreams are something unlike i could ever describe

2018-09-04 19:41:03 UTC  

O

2018-09-04 19:42:36 UTC  

I dont see the point in doing that

2018-09-04 19:43:03 UTC  

It gets to a point where going to sleep β€œhere” is akin to unplugging from the body and entering an infinite network of expression in which your intention throws you through a spectrum of consciousness until β€œreality” manifests around you based upon the mindset/emotions etc going into this state

2018-09-04 19:46:30 UTC  

well you see creativity, and β€œmuch” of what we are/do is a product of the subconsciousness of which we are an expression of. By β€œmastering” these altered states of mind to one degree or another you in turn learn how to harness β€œfocus” and willpower within passions/emotions etc to intensities beyond that of what would be otherwise egotistical and empty/superficial. So if you want to be able to sing/write music, etc, play instruments or follow your dreams, well it helps to be able to live those dreams and β€œlive” through far greater experiences to draw passions from

2018-09-04 19:46:53 UTC  

Let me guess

2018-09-04 19:46:56 UTC  

You have done this

2018-09-04 19:48:45 UTC  

lol hell no, I've studied this kinda thing from many points of view because i fundamentally lacked the very essence of this to such a degree my previous depression was a state of perpetual self induced numbing denial. I only point towards the road/path that we and many have followed, in time i hope to grow upon this too

2018-09-04 19:55:49 UTC  

For the majority of my life I’ve only ever had short 10-30 second dreams of lucidity usually waking up as if pulled from said dream state; furthermore the nature of said dreams was very… artificial as if being studied/tested; so I never felt rooted within the moment and easily drew myself out of them.

As of a month ish ago I started trying to go to sleep with intent, trying to β€œenter” the void of darkness behind closed eyes and let my mind create visualizations of its own flourishion. This has more or less been peekaboo with my innate, in short it β€œshowing” me some vague/fuzzy image until I β€œsee” it and try focusing then lose it, usually takes anywhere from 5-20min to get one, and about 3 seconds to loose it… to say i’m bad is a understatement.

On a brighter note, I’ve had some luck within harmonization, or rather dissonance; being I’ve had a few dreams enwich i could embody a feeling/tone within the mind to a degree that reality echo’s the intention; such as flight or levitation… mostly ends in me getting pulled out of the dream tho.

2018-09-04 19:56:06 UTC  

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2018-09-04 19:57:38 UTC  

@Soldz (CF) what do you hope to get from your studies "here" and on these topics?

2018-09-04 20:00:13 UTC  

The truth or something like it

2018-09-04 20:06:37 UTC  

well here's the thing, the only "truth" you have is what your 5 senses show/tell you; but many views tell you these are the only tools in which your enthralled before; so in short the only truths you can every really have are the ones you create to be true, as every product of experience can be manipulated through perceptions to create the responses they demand… and that’s not even getting into the nature of what we call ourself; being a product of knowing. Mk ultra like programs and of the likes have shown just how β€œeasily” the mind can be overwritten/modified; how entire personalities can be inserted/removed and more.

So what it really comes down to is what needs to be true to do what you do, and what needs to be true to do what you want to do?

2018-09-04 20:14:56 UTC  

~~Glad to see we got another mind brimming with critical thoughts...~~

2018-09-04 20:20:58 UTC  

Boo!

2018-09-04 20:23:03 UTC  

Yo

2018-09-04 20:25:36 UTC  

Hello

How'we doin'
-- Gttn bk from my appointment
yeap--gonna get some espresso brewin' . .

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2018-09-04 21:42:18 UTC  

Hello

hey--howz yer day been, Soldz.....

2018-09-04 21:43:23 UTC  

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2018-09-04 21:43:49 UTC  

A normal first day of school

2018-09-04 21:43:54 UTC  

Spending time with my girlfriend later

they go back, tomorrow--here....

ah, glad ya had a decent/normal day....