so they see stars circling an empty location

since the north star is too far to see

Even when they look south?

its over the horizon

So they look in the opposite direction and see the same thing?

stars circle overhead around the north star

Ok. But observable evidence says they rotate around two points.

One observer in the north sees them rotating around Polaris while looking northwards. The other observer is in the south and sees them rotating around Sigma Octantis (approximately) while looking southwards.

So, two points.

On opposite ends of the sky.

yea, its my belief that sigma octantis which is empty and can't be seen is actually Polaris

But it's on the opposite side of the sky

And its always south, which the FE map says is a different direction depending upon where you are. So Sigma Octantis/Polaris is in a completely different location depending upon where you are?

polaris is out of view, but you can see the stars that circling it in the south

Why the south? Why not the north?

there is no octantis

at least this is my theory

I'm not an expert on what happens in the sky

I know for a fact that the sun rotates around flat earth as does the moon

both the same size

Well the sun is always the same distance away from the observer, since it never appears to change size.

if we lived on a globe then more people would of circumnavigated the globe north to south

Or they haven't because, just maybe, it's really cold?

the fact that only a handful claim to have done this (and really haven't) shows flat earth

How do you know they haven't?

that is another point, it shouldn't be cold in the south if we did live on the globe

Do you understand how light angles work?

earth is flat, its not possible to circumnavigate north to south

Wait so the Earth is flat, therefore north-south circumnavigation is impossible, therefore nobody's done it, therefore the Earth is flat?

Or what's your real reason for thinking all the people who say they have are lying?

flat earthers tracked the person who was circumnavigating recently, and based on the tracker they went to the south pole, turned around and came back

Source?

they gave them the circumnavigation credit even though they turned around, which isn't circumnavigation

Source?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0DBi2t3XX8

<@&484512215764828162> could I have the "Questions everything role"? I had it at one point, maybe on a different account

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Could somebody who thinks the Earth is flat attempt to refute this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transglobe_Expedition

1979 isn’t that long ago. Find some documentation of the event. Wikipedia isn’t reliable, I’m afraid...since anyone can post anything they want on there.