I've watched people do it

that's not how it's done

that is exactly how it is done

you assume the curve, say its 93,000,000 away, and then that proves the globe

well, that doesn't prove diddly

both models work with the math

not how it's done

math alone doesn't confirm reality

I can look at the sun, and see where the light is coming from off of it

math might not

mathematical formulas certainly do

e=mc^2

light is local

the first image is fake

people asked the creators of it

thanks for trying to lie to me

I don't buy that the first image is fake

the second one doesn't look too real, but I'm not sure

then I've got nothing to tell you

the 2nd one is street lamps

nothing is special about either of these pics

so what is your point

you can grab other pics that show the exact same thing

yea there are a bunch of other fakes

sun seen thru clouds, shows its local

you can go and create your own pics with your own camera

sun is near clouds all the time

http://all4desktop.com/data_images/1280%20x%201024/4208017-eleuthera-point-harbour-island-bahamas-normal.jpg

you can see street lamps in fog less often but it does happen

no sorry

you don't see the sun trough clouds :/

you see the light coming off the sun thru clouds

the angles shows the origin of the light source

saying the sun goes over clouds is the same as saying airplanes go behind the moon because they disappear

no sorry

I said that is fak

just like a street lamp

check yourself

your missing the fricking point