Message from @Abe Clark

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2020-04-30 21:46:10 UTC  

Ah

2020-04-30 21:46:12 UTC  

There it is

2020-04-30 21:46:38 UTC  

I definitely played a part😂 we all have weird days.

2020-04-30 21:46:49 UTC  

Pfft, what you mean? Milsurp is obviously high quality. They would never give our boys shitty ammo

2020-04-30 21:47:11 UTC  

I mean, mk262 and m118lr are fine by me 🤷🏻‍♂️

2020-04-30 21:47:20 UTC  

We all have our off days.

2020-04-30 21:48:23 UTC  

@Crye_Salesman in my door kicker gun I’m less particular. Shooting a 1.5 lb rat at 300+ yards in the wind I’m a little more discerning.

2020-04-30 21:48:56 UTC  

Yeah, I'll run anything through my doorkicker. I'm going to be close enough to where it doesn't matter.

2020-04-30 21:49:22 UTC  

I have 855A1 in it right now

2020-04-30 21:49:57 UTC  

My concern with my entry gun is intermediate barrier defeat

2020-04-30 21:51:21 UTC  

Yeah, the dot on my holo is 2moa so 2-5 moa is ok for me with my 12.5”

2020-04-30 21:51:42 UTC  

Yep, 2moa dot inside of 100 meters is plenty good for me.

2020-04-30 21:52:32 UTC  

Oh, yeah @Sparrow I will concede your point about the total sight post MOA not mattering.
But RDS only use 1 focal plane if you’re doing it right

2020-04-30 21:53:41 UTC  

Yeah, I used to lolipop my red dots. Now I don't give a shit. I only use the dot, good enough.

2020-04-30 21:59:22 UTC  

Now let's talk budget optics... Because I'm very curious on this. I have a mix of decent and shit optics. But are there any exceptions to the rule, that a say, $80 RDS can actually be good? Obviously, it might not be as durable as an Aimpoint or similar companies. But say the Bushnell TRS-25, for the guys who can't afford 300-600, does it work?

2020-04-30 21:59:52 UTC  

If any of you have personal experience with that sort of thing, of course.

2020-04-30 22:00:50 UTC  

If you are willing to turn it on every time you pick it up and take the durability hit there are a few good budget options for red dots.

2020-04-30 22:01:06 UTC  

I think it’s fairly well established what optics are reliable

2020-04-30 22:01:18 UTC  

Greetings. Anyone running highcom 4s17 plates? Looking at shellback carrier with their iv 4s17 plates.

2020-04-30 22:01:43 UTC  

No, my plates are garbage and I have only had experience with ESAPIs

2020-04-30 22:02:04 UTC  

No I don’t run plates

2020-04-30 22:02:23 UTC  

I think highcom is supposed to be good, they’re NIJ listed yeah?
Shellback is okay for entry-level stuff

2020-04-30 22:02:38 UTC  

Yeah NIJ listed

2020-04-30 22:03:19 UTC  

They've got some decent kits for around $400 right now with no lead times.

2020-04-30 22:03:28 UTC  

Decent-looking*

2020-04-30 22:04:19 UTC  

So long as they aren't steel and they're rated, why not?

2020-04-30 22:04:34 UTC  

Yeah.

2020-04-30 22:04:42 UTC  

Yeah, those look fine, although single curves will be annoying after a while

2020-04-30 22:05:04 UTC  

I'm not easily annoyed. Willing to give it a shot.

2020-04-30 22:05:56 UTC  

Meaning, they don’t conceal as well, and will hurt your shit a little faster than multi-curve. Not the end of the world, just something to consider

2020-04-30 22:09:16 UTC  

Pros and cons of running a thermal optic vs a standard one

2020-04-30 22:09:53 UTC  

Pros, you can see more shit in the dark. Cons, You can't see color and it can eventually start to mess with your eyes, and depth perception is pretty meh.

2020-04-30 22:11:35 UTC  

Also, batteries. you're depending on them to even be able to use your optic. Same can be said with some red dots too, but there's options out there that don't require batteries at all, or they at least last a while.

2020-04-30 22:13:55 UTC  

Really, it depends on your mission and if you can get steady resupply.

2020-04-30 22:14:34 UTC  

Thermal optics have lag

2020-04-30 22:14:48 UTC  

Can’t see through glass

2020-04-30 22:14:51 UTC  

Poor eye relief

2020-04-30 22:15:05 UTC  

Sparrow my baseline for a red dot is 150 to 200 minimum anything less is a range toy and not to be trusted

2020-04-30 22:16:14 UTC  

Unless you’re just like, hog hunting, I would go thermal spotter and then regular optic with analog NV on your gun

2020-04-30 22:16:39 UTC  

Or run fusion on your lid and a laser on your gun

2020-04-30 22:17:53 UTC  

I wouldn't use a thermal as a main optic personally. Not unless it's just for hunting, and night time. Great for spotting, that really all I'd want one for though.