Message from @thereisonlyoneMAUZER

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2020-05-26 08:49:01 UTC  

> Allow freedom of speech even if it goes against your views.
@Tagout1221 we do to an extent. But there are some views that are blatant anti liberty like communism for example. We aren’t going to go person to person looking for who holds those views. But if someone starts getting vocal about it there will most likely be a problem. Also if someone was a Nazi and then they got vocal they’d give us a bad name and the media would eat it up.

2020-05-26 14:03:18 UTC  

So you dont allow freedom of speech than just to those you agree with? If we have communists or ethno nationalists explain to them how they are wrong. This is called civil discourse.

2020-05-26 14:16:28 UTC  

We do. But having ethno nationalist and Nazis represent the movement is a bad look

2020-05-26 14:17:59 UTC  

Idk if you’ve opened a history book but communism and nazism hasn’t really been pro liberty. We all discourse of course but if you genuinely believe in communism or the Nazi movement then you aren’t pro liberty

2020-05-26 14:20:54 UTC  

@Tagout1221 if you want to talk about this further I suggest you PM me.

2020-05-26 14:33:50 UTC  

@Mountain Man 🏔 definitely, im not seeing how silencing others for having a different view is pro liberty.

2020-05-26 14:36:20 UTC  

If you're advocating for oppressive state control, you're not trying to promote liberty my guy

2020-05-26 15:55:18 UTC  

True

2020-05-26 15:55:30 UTC  

Two wrongs dont make a right though

2020-05-26 15:56:18 UTC  

i understand what you are trying to say, but there are some beliefs that are just not compatible

2020-05-26 21:43:36 UTC  

> So you dont allow freedom of speech than just to those you agree with? If we have communists or ethno nationalists explain to them how they are wrong. This is called civil discourse.
@Tagout1221 you freedom to speak doesn't extend to areas that are privately owned. For example, if you go into a gay biker bar and start hurling insults, the owners of said bar have the right to refuse service and ban you from the premises. In that scenario, no-one violated your rights to speak freely. You just probably didn't like the consequences of said speech.

2020-05-26 21:50:28 UTC  

I already talked to him guys. I’m giving him a chance to lurk around and learn more about the movement and what liberty means

2020-05-27 00:21:17 UTC  

Just found it ironic a group that wants to express first amendment rights would be anti first amendment when it came to differing views. 🤷‍♂️

2020-05-27 00:21:38 UTC  

I do understand not wanting to have a bad public image though

2020-05-27 00:21:50 UTC  

its whatever though

2020-05-27 00:23:10 UTC  

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2020-05-27 00:26:16 UTC  

It's an interesting balance. We don't want speech restricted by government, but there's certain precautions we have to take in order to avoid having the server taken down, being pinned as terrorists by the media, or even have fbi agents show up at our doors. I've seen it happen. If you say too many hotwords, you'll get a knock at your door in the morning.

2020-05-27 00:28:31 UTC  

Yeah that’s not really a knock you want.

2020-05-27 00:56:05 UTC  

The first ammendment right to speak your mind is not a free pass to do so on others private property. In fact, it is freedom of expression that secures the right for a privately owned space to choose what speech they allow.

2020-05-27 00:56:25 UTC  

The 1A guarantees freedom from government intrusion.

2020-05-27 00:56:42 UTC  

In speech, assembly, religion, etc

2020-05-27 01:33:00 UTC  

if anyone ahs nitro its worth boosting this server due to the high volume chats

2020-05-27 01:42:13 UTC  

We have three boosts. We need 27 more to max it out

2020-05-27 01:58:08 UTC  

17 boosts!

2020-05-27 02:07:20 UTC  

18*

2020-05-27 02:09:19 UTC  

Gang shit @Fabultishere

2020-05-27 02:09:21 UTC  

Good shit

2020-05-27 02:22:28 UTC  

Need Canadian role 🍁

2020-05-27 02:23:27 UTC  
2020-05-27 02:23:30 UTC  

Done fellow fren

2020-05-27 02:23:35 UTC  

No I did it

2020-05-27 02:23:38 UTC  

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2020-05-27 02:23:40 UTC  

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2020-05-27 02:23:40 UTC  

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2020-05-27 02:27:28 UTC  

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2020-05-27 04:02:20 UTC  

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2020-05-27 04:03:13 UTC  

text channel for livestream links so we dont have to scroll through voice/member chat

2020-05-27 05:09:26 UTC  

better info dissemination, classify our intel at least in a manner to ensure were only spreading confirmed intel and not random rumors/hearsay