Message from @Hagel

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2017-02-15 01:41:20 UTC  

Do languages like English describe words?

2017-02-15 01:41:27 UTC  

They don't. They use words to describe ideas

2017-02-15 01:41:53 UTC  

Music uses sound waves and rhythm patterns to create pleasant melodies

2017-02-15 01:42:06 UTC  

Poetry can have pleasant rhythms and sounds, too

2017-02-15 01:42:14 UTC  

Yes, when read aloud

2017-02-15 01:42:16 UTC  

Death is a phonetically pleasing word, but it also represents an idea.

2017-02-15 01:42:20 UTC  

oh god

2017-02-15 01:42:21 UTC  

even wrose

2017-02-15 01:42:22 UTC  

worse

2017-02-15 01:42:26 UTC  

somehow

2017-02-15 01:42:28 UTC  

Melodies are the same

2017-02-15 01:42:50 UTC  

Just like I can come up with a meaningless word that sounds pretty, I can come up with a melody just for the sake of it sounding pretty

2017-02-15 01:42:53 UTC  

that doesn't mean that I can't do more

2017-02-15 01:44:01 UTC  

My best shot is that music sparks creativity and curiosity

2017-02-15 01:44:18 UTC  

But again, that's of limited value, and again, speaking from the perspective of significant things

2017-02-15 01:44:21 UTC  

like, globally

2017-02-15 01:44:37 UTC  

Music is a language.

2017-02-15 01:44:54 UTC  

Again, we can go round and round in circles, but music will always remain enjoyment

2017-02-15 01:44:58 UTC  

entertainment

2017-02-15 01:45:01 UTC  

It is worse than prose at describing mundane technical details, but better at describing will itself

2017-02-15 01:45:07 UTC  

Poetry is between the two

2017-02-15 01:45:14 UTC  

Ok, there's ritual purpose too

2017-02-15 01:45:20 UTC  

No, it's a language

2017-02-15 01:45:27 UTC  

It can describe will¨

2017-02-15 01:46:02 UTC  

Just like any language, it can be used merely for sounding or looking pretty

2017-02-15 01:46:08 UTC  

I can write meaningless poetry with great structures

2017-02-15 01:46:14 UTC  

I can come up with meaningless words that sound good

2017-02-15 01:46:23 UTC  

and I can play melodies that sound nice but represent nothing

2017-02-15 01:46:42 UTC  

Well this just was not what I thought it was going to be. Maybe next time?

2017-02-15 01:46:56 UTC  

I don't understand how you don't spot the obvious folly in that position

2017-02-15 01:47:02 UTC  

The "meaning' of music is entirely subjective

2017-02-15 01:47:14 UTC  

Just because an artist gave a song a title does not dictate it's meaning

2017-02-15 01:47:22 UTC  

It just suggests artists INTENTIONS

2017-02-15 01:47:28 UTC  

The artist can have an intent and a message, however.

2017-02-15 01:47:29 UTC  

Which are for the listener irrelevant

2017-02-15 01:48:06 UTC  

So I guess I will use a Rammstein song the next time I want to promote heterosexual experiences.

2017-02-15 01:48:30 UTC  

You was talking about music from technical point of view i guess

2017-02-15 01:48:39 UTC  

The meaning of anything is always partially subjective

2017-02-15 01:48:45 UTC  

Sure I can write a song ABOUT something

2017-02-15 01:48:53 UTC  

Music more so than prose, prose more so than math