Message from @Nester

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2017-02-18 20:35:40 UTC  

Only the black emperors

2017-02-18 20:35:53 UTC  

As most people are attracted to BM as it looks easy to play

2017-02-18 20:36:12 UTC  

But that's like saying writing a polyphonic medieval hymn was easy....

2017-02-18 20:36:25 UTC  

Once you learn the technique, it's easy to do, but not easy to do well

2017-02-18 20:36:25 UTC  

As people off the street could be taught to sing it in a month

2017-02-18 20:36:32 UTC  

It's not.

2017-02-18 20:36:42 UTC  

If so, more people would do it.

2017-02-18 20:37:02 UTC  

Or have more than one album of worthwhile ideas

2017-02-18 20:37:09 UTC  

I maintain that it's easy to do, but hard to do well enough to be worthwhile

2017-02-18 20:37:21 UTC  

The carnage / dismember guys had two and a half.

2017-02-18 20:37:30 UTC  

The point is it's not easy.

2017-02-18 20:37:36 UTC  

You just have to learn some tricks for polyphony, it's not that hard

2017-02-18 20:37:43 UTC  

It is very hard.

2017-02-18 20:37:46 UTC  

But it is harder than metal, which is easy to pick up but hard to do well

2017-02-18 20:38:09 UTC  

The best old metal songs are hard to play

2017-02-18 20:38:13 UTC  

Due to sweep picking

2017-02-18 20:38:20 UTC  

Try to play to tame a land.

2017-02-18 20:38:31 UTC  

If you don't know classical guitar music.

2017-02-18 20:38:59 UTC  

Or even priest If you can't sweep pick in time harmonizes with someone else.

2017-02-18 20:39:03 UTC  

Who can't read music at all.

2017-02-18 20:39:29 UTC  

The important metal people were largely driven by the absence of their views from view, once that was no longer the case their motivation died, and so it becomes increasingly harder for them to make good music once again, most don't

2017-02-18 20:39:45 UTC  

Most don't have that many good ideas

2017-02-18 20:40:09 UTC  

Just like mOST people with most creative thinga.

2017-02-18 20:40:12 UTC  

Things

2017-02-18 20:40:58 UTC  

Then real life hits, and the current model compels frequent releases, and so drudgery or parodies follow

2017-02-18 20:40:59 UTC  

The guys who did were gods like Demonaz or Quorthon

2017-02-18 20:41:04 UTC  

Yep.

2017-02-18 20:41:11 UTC  

Bands should quit.

2017-02-18 20:41:34 UTC  

Classical works were commisioned

2017-02-18 20:41:46 UTC  

Compositional abilities like harmonically consonant simultaneous melodies of different rhythms, and polyphony in general, are like technical skill on an instrument. Most people can learn them, but even if they do, they can't use them to make good music

2017-02-18 20:42:04 UTC  

The classical guys made good music throughout their lifetime, and haven't blown their loads in the first handful of works.

2017-02-18 20:42:14 UTC  

If Incantation quit after diabolical conquest they would have exhausted everything they could do with their ideas.

2017-02-18 20:42:19 UTC  

Depends.

2017-02-18 20:42:35 UTC  

There is a lot of filler in stuff like Wagner.

2017-02-18 20:42:46 UTC  

It's really a soundtrack for an opera.

2017-02-18 20:42:53 UTC  

With motifs....

2017-02-18 20:42:58 UTC  

Like a score.

2017-02-18 20:43:17 UTC  

But such a model wouldn't necessarily help metal, as that youthful energy, mostly irretrievable in old age, is vital to it.

2017-02-18 20:43:37 UTC  

Depends.

2017-02-18 20:43:43 UTC  

Some old guys still have it

2017-02-18 20:43:49 UTC  

Like?