Message from @spaceplacenta

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2017-02-18 21:50:41 UTC  

Hence humans would be naturally more than evolved monkeys

2017-02-18 21:51:00 UTC  

the argument would be that our nature is in some sense elevated or different from primates

2017-02-18 21:51:04 UTC  

We're ends in ourselves

2017-02-18 21:51:06 UTC  

and by extension other animals

2017-02-18 21:51:13 UTC  

And, that this elevation can not have come through evolution

2017-02-18 21:51:26 UTC  

No, not at all @Hagel

2017-02-18 21:51:31 UTC  

Yes, absolutely

2017-02-18 21:51:40 UTC  

Hence "just evolved monkeys" being unacceptable

2017-02-18 21:51:44 UTC  

No, that claim does not preclude evolution

2017-02-18 21:51:50 UTC  

you read a lot of meaning into it

2017-02-18 21:52:06 UTC  

as am I, but to show you that it allows for a lot

2017-02-18 21:52:14 UTC  

you can't simply judge a person's heart like this

2017-02-18 21:52:18 UTC  

In Islam, people go to hell for different durations

2017-02-18 21:52:18 UTC  

or in your words

2017-02-18 21:52:20 UTC  

their "values"

2017-02-18 21:52:32 UTC  

How long would gays be in hell?

2017-02-18 21:52:43 UTC  

IS IT STILL A GAY BATHHOUSE IN HERE?

2017-02-18 21:52:44 UTC  

yeah, muslims go to hell until their sins are burned away (if they arent supposed to end up in hell forever for some other reason)

2017-02-18 21:53:10 UTC  

I guess anyone who ultimately has faith in god cant be in hell forever

2017-02-18 21:53:19 UTC  

So hell can be a permanent environ

2017-02-18 21:53:31 UTC  

as far as I know

2017-02-18 21:53:47 UTC  

can't really speculate that much about hell, there just isnt enough to go on, I can tell you the orthodoxy

2017-02-18 21:53:48 UTC  

hell wasn't a centerpiece to christianity until the reformation

2017-02-18 21:54:00 UTC  

Do you think the Wolves of Vinland guys are going to hell?

2017-02-18 21:54:06 UTC  

Them being heathens and all

2017-02-18 21:54:06 UTC  

I can't say

2017-02-18 21:54:16 UTC  

You've read the book

2017-02-18 21:54:22 UTC  

I don't know what is in the hearts of men, or what is important in a person's life

2017-02-18 21:54:23 UTC  

SWEET

2017-02-18 21:54:30 UTC  

like there is an anecdote of the whore

2017-02-18 21:54:33 UTC  

Do pagans go to hell?

2017-02-18 21:54:38 UTC  

who was saved as she got water for a dog

2017-02-18 21:54:41 UTC  

from a well with her boot

2017-02-18 21:54:46 UTC  

for this one act, she was saved

2017-02-18 21:54:59 UTC  

our lives are ones of meaningful choices, important chocies

2017-02-18 21:55:04 UTC  

but we may not realize which ones these are

2017-02-18 21:55:12 UTC  

moments in life when you make a decision based on the transcendent

2017-02-18 21:55:16 UTC  

do you choose to accept or reject

2017-02-18 21:55:26 UTC  

be your true self in unison with god