Message from @Salt

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2017-04-01 21:19:15 UTC  

"stick with what worked last time"

2017-04-01 21:19:29 UTC  

Soviet Union is the result of all of that

2017-04-01 21:19:49 UTC  

Hitler-Stalin pact is the result of French and British incompetence

2017-04-01 21:20:28 UTC  

Which would have never happened have they only pledged to invade Germany as soon as it reoccuppied Rhineland, or mess with a neighbouring nation

2017-04-01 21:20:35 UTC  

All the beggining is Napoleon

2017-04-01 21:20:46 UTC  

like said @Salt

2017-04-01 21:20:58 UTC  

They only had to pledge to do so, because Hitler would've never did all he did if he didn't observe complete lethargy

2017-04-01 21:21:46 UTC  

Well, Napoleon was in many ways a better leader than what followed

2017-04-01 21:22:13 UTC  

He was ambitious yes, but his "acts" were always backed up by rifles and boots

2017-04-01 21:22:38 UTC  

He was distrustful of burreaucracy

2017-04-01 21:22:39 UTC  

in Hearths of Iron 4, i invade earth cause it's cool

2017-04-01 21:22:53 UTC  

in the real world, this is stupid

2017-04-01 21:22:57 UTC  

Hitler paid too

2017-04-01 21:23:06 UTC  

like many other empires

2017-04-01 21:23:15 UTC  

Napoleon never really invaded countries just like that

2017-04-01 21:23:34 UTC  

It was a complex, but not entirely outrageous series of consecutive vents

2017-04-01 21:23:36 UTC  

events *

2017-04-01 21:23:48 UTC  

He left all major monarchies intact

2017-04-01 21:24:00 UTC  

In fact, he created some more, like Italy

2017-04-01 21:24:25 UTC  

Napoleon wanted for himself dominant spot in Europe and he wasn't the first or last European to try to do so

2017-04-01 21:24:59 UTC  

Napoleonic wars were mostly defensive, but the consequence was the spread of 1789's ideas

2017-04-01 21:25:28 UTC  

I don't really believe that Napoleon was agent of these ideas

2017-04-01 21:25:33 UTC  

Nor helped their proliferation

2017-04-01 21:25:46 UTC  

he was not, he stopped the mess in France, but he had some of it

2017-04-01 21:25:54 UTC  

His position towards revolution itself was entirely cynical

2017-04-01 21:26:45 UTC  

Funny thing is, while Stalin commited many great errors in his domestic rule

2017-04-01 21:26:45 UTC  

the human's rights was one of his prime ideas

2017-04-01 21:27:10 UTC  

He was way more serious in his foreign policy

2017-04-01 21:27:45 UTC  

Which was recognized by Hitler, who considered Stalin (he didnt directly say it) his greatest opponent

2017-04-01 21:27:55 UTC  

Not only due to the immediacy of their conflict

2017-04-01 21:27:58 UTC  

STALIN DID NOT SMOKE ROYAL YACHT

2017-04-01 21:28:01 UTC  

Americans were more powrful

2017-04-01 21:28:03 UTC  

IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER

2017-04-01 21:28:11 UTC  

STALIN SMOKED "HERZEGOVINA FLOR"

2017-04-01 21:28:16 UTC  

AND NEVER CLEANED HIS PIPES

2017-04-01 21:28:21 UTC  

But because he understood that Stalin "owed nothing to demagogy" (Hitler's words)

2017-04-01 21:28:22 UTC  

MR. MUNDUNGUS

2017-04-01 21:28:31 UTC  

DEMAGOGY => DEMOTISM

2017-04-01 21:28:50 UTC  

Stalin surely did make mistakes in his strategic thinking

2017-04-01 21:28:53 UTC  

But more importantly

2017-04-01 21:28:56 UTC  

He never forgave mistakes