Message from @Salt

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2017-04-01 21:58:55 UTC  

Removal of Turks was imminent

2017-04-01 21:59:03 UTC  

In fact, it's miraculous how Turks persisted for so long

2017-04-01 21:59:09 UTC  

Mostly thanks to British support

2017-04-01 21:59:19 UTC  

And Austrian caution towards Russia

2017-04-01 21:59:31 UTC  

But otherwise, Ottoman position was incredibly fragile and perilous

2017-04-01 21:59:44 UTC  

They pesisted only thanks to cunning in diplomacy, in their good fashion

2017-04-01 22:00:28 UTC  

The fact that it was defeated by Balkan League,and alliance of conscripted peasant armies, displayed how completely sub-standard was Ottoman force

2017-04-01 22:01:32 UTC  

It's society, the Muslim population, was weakened, soft, dwelled in towns, markets and dealed solely with trade and craft

2017-04-01 22:01:56 UTC  

It's officer corps drafted from that population, corrupt, ambitious, selfish and unpatriotic

2017-04-01 22:02:09 UTC  

Turkey rallied only in WW I

2017-04-01 22:02:16 UTC  

to become much better force

2017-04-01 22:02:29 UTC  

did the British supplied equipments? at that times the Ottoman were mostly agrarians

2017-04-01 22:03:15 UTC  

AFAIK Turks used mostly French and German equipment

2017-04-01 22:03:47 UTC  

But they had considerable manpower, and long history of conflict and experienced officer corps

2017-04-01 22:30:35 UTC  

How average Mormon looks like

2017-04-01 22:31:20 UTC  

lame shirt that doesnt fit, on a lame physique, tucked into pants that dont fit, tied with a waist that doesnt fit

2017-04-01 22:31:50 UTC  

face that has given up on anything else besides office and subscription to cable TV

2017-04-01 22:32:07 UTC  

and betraying country

2017-04-01 22:43:37 UTC  

I think that city living is anti-human, city-dwellers know nothing else than cities, and every cities of the world are the same, this is how you kill allegiance and you end up with males with gay haircuts and tight jeans, this is why I think infrastructures are more dangerous than ideology, they built themselves an universe removed from the world

2017-04-01 23:01:31 UTC  

@Salt I agree and have been trying to get prozak to understand for years

2017-04-01 23:02:06 UTC  

Westerners think their happiness is one purchase away

2017-04-01 23:02:12 UTC  

That's what all boils down to

2017-04-01 23:03:13 UTC  

No identity

2017-04-01 23:03:25 UTC  

No real values or loyalties, only imagined stuff

2017-04-01 23:04:17 UTC  

They imagine what they value but in reality are as water, dissapearing without trace facing any trial or test

2017-04-01 23:04:51 UTC  

They refuse the only and most logical option that can improve them vastly

2017-04-01 23:04:57 UTC  

And that is to limit their options

2017-04-01 23:05:20 UTC  

Limit the number of people they are loyal to, number of things they own, number of things they obey and consider sacred

2017-04-01 23:06:04 UTC  

Number of people they interact with, number of things they are prepared to vouch for, number of things which they are prepared to defend to the end

2017-04-01 23:06:46 UTC  

They always have to be committed to cosmopolianism, because otherwise they feel as if somebody is "denying" them something

2017-04-01 23:07:23 UTC  

As if they have to give up on this Ecumene which belongs to them, when in reality only thing they have to do is take charge of their own lives

2017-04-01 23:07:39 UTC  

And assume realistic attitude towards their environment

2017-04-01 23:10:55 UTC  

I am only happy when asserting my identity

2017-04-01 23:11:31 UTC  

Basically people are mentally healthiest when asserting collective identity, and when times are too broken for that they default to personal identity instead

2017-04-01 23:11:50 UTC  

deviant art pages instead of cultural festivals

2017-04-01 23:12:11 UTC  

that is the main thing prozak fails to grasp about nationalism

2017-04-01 23:13:10 UTC  

he is mostly right but never hammers home how cathartic it was for Germans under Hitler to revel in their Germanness all the time for basically no reason