Message from @Salt

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2017-04-04 17:11:03 UTC  

idealism isn't holistic

2017-04-04 17:11:04 UTC  

mankind's consciousness matters not. most people do not think in meta terms

2017-04-04 17:11:12 UTC  

how is the average person more important than an insect

2017-04-04 17:11:14 UTC  

or a dog?

2017-04-04 17:11:24 UTC  

an insect has wants and desires'

2017-04-04 17:11:29 UTC  

as does a stream

2017-04-04 17:11:31 UTC  

hey, from your framework, they are of course not any more or any less important

2017-04-04 17:11:34 UTC  

there is no importance or value

2017-04-04 17:11:36 UTC  

in the way you think

2017-04-04 17:11:43 UTC  

yet the way you actually live isn't like that

2017-04-04 17:11:51 UTC  

you "arbitrarily choose" your value

2017-04-04 17:12:00 UTC  

your mind denies value, your body accepts it

2017-04-04 17:12:07 UTC  

"practical, yet false, value"

2017-04-04 17:12:07 UTC  

I consider about half of all people to be irredeemable sacks of shit

2017-04-04 17:17:06 UTC  

@The Enlightened Shepherd , the above re: your comment about framework and meaning

2017-04-04 17:17:16 UTC  

@Salt you may find it of some value too, maybe

2017-04-04 17:22:18 UTC  

UNIVERSALISM IS FECES

2017-04-04 17:27:26 UTC  

yes they realized it was false in the 1100s when they got a real education system other than rote learning

2017-04-04 17:28:15 UTC  

When you go into "Jesus didn't exist, Muhammad didn't exist, they disproved God in the middle ages" Maarat mode it won't really end up in a discussion

2017-04-04 17:28:22 UTC  

@Death Strike's Bat the concept of god as a "man" or the whole universe itself?

2017-04-04 17:28:38 UTC  

the concept of a prexisting universal ideas

2017-04-04 17:28:51 UTC  

@fallot is not speaking about universalism

2017-04-04 17:29:13 UTC  

fallot has different ideas about deities than their religions do

2017-04-04 17:29:48 UTC  

Universalism is within-particular-religion

2017-04-04 17:29:48 UTC  

also Jesus has way more evidence for existing than Muhammad

2017-04-04 17:29:56 UTC  

Universalism is within everything

2017-04-04 17:30:07 UTC  

it's not in any particular religion

2017-04-04 17:30:44 UTC  

certain religions aren't run by inbred jawas that chop your head off for questioning their mumbling book

2017-04-04 17:30:50 UTC  

My "universalism" isn't particularly different from Perennialism

2017-04-04 17:31:05 UTC  

but I wasn't going there anyway

2017-04-04 17:31:45 UTC  

What matters @Death Strike's Bat ?

2017-04-04 17:31:46 UTC  

that post-dates who they claimed to write it and I doubt he would've approved it in that form.

2017-04-04 17:31:46 UTC  

What is important

2017-04-04 17:31:58 UTC  

anything? nothing?

2017-04-04 17:32:34 UTC  

the gospels are the most copied books of antiquitiy and late antiquity

2017-04-04 17:32:39 UTC  

For most of the history of Christianity in the West I am sure you would be slain for denigrating the Bible publicly

2017-04-04 17:32:45 UTC  

isn't that true?

2017-04-04 17:32:50 UTC  

no

2017-04-04 17:33:25 UTC  

The Church just makes you say the church is right in manners of doctrine.

2017-04-04 17:33:35 UTC  

just ordinary people would lynch you I mean