they would probably overrun it if conditions were right

at least they would establish a stable population

the issue here is also the pathological behaviours

it's not just that they all died, they stopped breeding

According to Calhoun, such phenomena may take place in societies where the older generations live longer than usual and the population growth is still within normal limits. The elderly do not die fast enough, and the younger generations wait impatiently to take over certain social roles. The competition between generations becomes much more severe.

After time, the old and the young start behaving in a way they would never do in the wild. Along with behavioral changes, the organization of society declines.

Despite the popular name of the experiment, Calhoun failed to create utopian conditions. Quite the opposite, the main purpose of the experiment was to observe the reaction of mice when living in an overpopulated society. In order to create an actual utopian environment, the whole living area should have been enlarged before the start of phase C.

we're not mice. this is not an issue that requires abstract scientific analysis

That too

do the mice watch anti-mice propaganda on mice tv?

i'm a bit rustled cuz this should be such a simple issue

In other words white people are not having kids because overpopulation is a real problem.

ok i'm out for now. hail our people!

it's combination of overpopulation, retarded society and lack of purpose, gil is right when he says that people should be encouraged to reproduce

Strictly speaking about mouse Utopia

@༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻ overpopulation itself was not an issue in Mouse Utopia because the mice had everything they wanted

overpopulation is a malthusian issue for mankind, or considered one

the mice did not need to compete for food

they got everything

food, shelter, mates

did you read the rest

I remember that Brett wrote an article about it: http://www.amerika.org/politics/an-economics-of-survival/

I've read it all

I'm just clarifying this, wasn't contradicting you

ok

Fortunately in the real world the Utopia conditions aren't actually feasible

don't have to match it to humanity 1 to 1, or even close

there was a precipitous drop in fertility in both

the idea is, are we (or white people specifically) at the end of the curve

can we recognize things that look like those pathological behaviours

in modern people

Yes but you asked "why"

why what?

why are people not having kids

it was rhetorical

his conclusion is intuitive to most young people, "if I can't find a place, my kids won't"

otherwise​ declines in birth rates follow trends of economic contraction once you grand an inertia of a generation or so

you're an INTJ too, aren't you

goddamnit

of course

Another one lol

That's terrific