Message from @The Enlightened Shepherd

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2017-05-10 16:27:41 UTC  

and he hates woman

2017-05-10 16:28:23 UTC  

so there are no long term goals only short term pleasure

2017-05-10 16:33:29 UTC  

@Hagel WHAT IS "bärsärkagång"?

2017-05-10 16:33:48 UTC  

@Angry German IF HE HAS NO LONG TERM GOALS, THEN HE IS A FATALIST

2017-05-10 16:33:57 UTC  

HE NEEDS TO DISCOVER SOMETHING THAT MOTIVATES HIM

2017-05-10 16:34:00 UTC  

IF ONLY AN IMPULSE TO DESTROY

2017-05-10 16:36:53 UTC  

Literally, to walk berserk. But I mean that it is a better way to be. It is not even, and so is not a good shield against suffering, but it is the most conducive to great deeds

2017-05-10 16:37:10 UTC  

All good things that I have done have come from that, not from an inner void

2017-05-10 16:44:35 UTC  

SOUNDS LIKE: SODOMIZE THE WEAK!

2017-05-10 16:44:37 UTC  

ACTING THROUGH PASSION

2017-05-10 16:44:43 UTC  

WORKS UNTIL MOMENTUM FADES

2017-05-10 16:44:49 UTC  

EVENTUALLY IT BECOMES A DISCIPLINE

2017-05-10 21:33:40 UTC  

sodomize the strong

2017-05-10 21:44:13 UTC  

EGALITARIANISM

2017-05-10 21:44:15 UTC  

IN A NUTSHELL

2017-05-10 21:45:31 UTC  

It really doesn't surprise me that conservatives in the west have such a bad opinion on eastern traditions

2017-05-10 21:45:39 UTC  

I was researching something lately

2017-05-10 21:46:00 UTC  

And I only come up on stupid self-help websites with words "healing" "karma" and such in their names

2017-05-10 21:46:20 UTC  

completely misinterpreting and (what is the proper word for making something plebeian ?) every doctrine

2017-05-10 21:47:19 UTC  

to be worse, they rely on whatever is taught on tibet or china or elsewhere since that is the "source", even though traditions over there have become folkishly over-elaborate

2017-05-10 21:48:23 UTC  

THEY NEED TO MAKE IT INTO A PRODUCT

2017-05-10 21:48:29 UTC  

EXOTIC + INDIVIDUALISTIC WILL WORK

2017-05-10 21:49:00 UTC  

It' something like what has happened with western thought as well

2017-05-10 21:49:39 UTC  

they take something that is symbolic, but that simply doesn't mean "too much" if you get what I mean, and ascribe it very complex and elaborate symbolism for the symbolism's sake

2017-05-10 22:22:41 UTC  

I think what you are talking about is the modern western interpretation of eastern traditions, which is to say the least very biased and plebianized. I have quite limited knowledge about eastern tradition only read one book that went over them with a big brush but especially buddhism and to a smaller degree its "predecessors" were definetly not egalitarian in any sense of the word, enlightenment(Which meant different things at different times, some mean atma the realization of ones inner self, buddha something else i am not 100 % what exactly atm) was only achieved by those that were capable of freeing themselves from desires as they were seen as the origin of everything bad, so there were different masters (Buddha was just one of them) that showed or develped different methods/variations to achieve that, withdrawl from the physical world, through meditation and yoga etc., a lot of time had to be invested for this kind of stuff and most werent capable of doing that and were bound to be reborn. And only those that were of special predisposition and spent the time to achieve that state of mind achieved nirvana and thereby were freed from eternal ressurection.

2017-05-10 22:35:53 UTC  

@The Enlightened Shepherd Could you give a symbol as an example?

2017-05-10 22:36:25 UTC  

For example I was reading about Mahakala

2017-05-10 22:36:41 UTC  

Which is in most traditions a Dharmapala, a protector deity

2017-05-10 22:37:01 UTC  

But also symbolizes dissolution, the immutability of the passage of time, etc

2017-05-10 22:37:24 UTC  

Now he is depicted as a fierceful, wrathful, deity, all in black, adorned with skulls, weapons, ashes and fire

2017-05-10 22:37:37 UTC  

has three eyes (symbolizing that he is a boddhisatva)

2017-05-10 22:37:46 UTC  

and protruded fangs

2017-05-10 22:38:06 UTC  

and now these gurus and students go on and on and give every single detail of his traditional representation a meaning

2017-05-10 22:38:10 UTC  

"sword represents this"

2017-05-10 22:38:16 UTC  

"fangs represent this"

2017-05-10 22:38:29 UTC  

ok i get what you are talking about now

2017-05-10 22:38:32 UTC  

when it's obvious that all of these things are merely artistic expressions of his entire image, of a wrathful deity

2017-05-10 22:38:55 UTC  

trying to interpret every single detail

2017-05-10 22:39:11 UTC  

and most striking is the agonizing recoiling back of all of these hippies from any possibility that there exists a detached, wrathful deity

2017-05-10 22:39:24 UTC  

so they say "he is standing on demons" or "enemies of dharma"