but when talking among each others, people should refrain from dishonest poseuring

I think I agree. Can you give an example of a dishonesty bothering you?

Is it like r/The_Donald pretending like LEGAL immigrants are great?

No

I'm talking about what I feel isaac tried to confront

My sentiments about realities of modern family life

People tell you that when you state realities

that you are "anti-family"

and that is not according to party line where families should be abundant and with many children

but im merely stating the facts of family life as-is

and people then pettifog about it and say how it's just my experience

and when I point to them the obvious patterns of modern family life they say how I'm just being subversive

subversive lol

what was i arguing

i just asked why you guys arguong

i didnt make any other statemant than that

Its not that deep

the new right is just a smaller version of the dynamic of the old right. At least in the US. It's a coalition. In the old right, the an-caps and the christian fundies have to vote for the same guy, even though they share basically no beliefs. In the new right, dark enlightenment types are yolked to people who want to restore the monarchy or whatever. No two people agree on everything.

lol

traditionalists feel like you're attacking their utopian family ideal I guess

@The Enlightened Shepherd ?

yes

him

no

im just wondering why he was debating an opinion that wasnt there

what for traditionalists passes as a traditional family ideal

is just conservative gibberish

first we need to dispell the first nonsense postulate of conservative "traditional" family roles

where the role of the father is that of someone who supports family

which is utter nonsense

the father is merely the most capable part of the family, and his primary role is that of a defender

as far as support goes, other than fertile months of the mother

the entire community, since the dawn of humanity, worked towards supporting it's members

especially that is more so in agrarian families and shepherd families

the relegation of man's dignty by modern conservatives

to that of a working bee

is a criminal protestant-judaic-teutonic liberal-matriarchal concoction which needs to be sent back to hell from which it emerged

even more so, the basic goods for a society, for day to day use

are par exellence a product of female intellect

it is male's intellect which produces long lasting cultural products which survive to this day

namely weapons, art, temples, and such