Message from @vry_o

Discord ID: 335146757656936449


2017-07-13 19:46:21 UTC  

Other than the baloony thingy is there other shit they can do

2017-07-13 19:46:49 UTC  

coronary artery bypass graft

2017-07-13 19:46:53 UTC  

CABG

2017-07-13 19:46:55 UTC  

open surgery

2017-07-13 19:47:02 UTC  

They won't do open surgery

2017-07-13 19:47:13 UTC  

may still be amenable to some sort of stenting

2017-07-13 19:47:17 UTC  

I don't know the exact situation

2017-07-13 19:48:24 UTC  

can do medical anticoagulation but that's of limited effectiveness

2017-07-13 19:48:31 UTC  

he's already had it likely anyway

2017-07-13 19:48:39 UTC  

a collateral circulation develops anyway

2017-07-13 19:49:01 UTC  

depends on what vessel it is as well

2017-07-13 19:49:32 UTC  

Major bypass surgery was done 19 years ago, stents put in 2008

2017-07-13 19:49:39 UTC  

Each heart attack is a new area

2017-07-13 19:50:36 UTC  

Borrowed time

2017-07-13 19:51:38 UTC  

oh okay

2017-07-13 19:51:42 UTC  

nothing can be done then

2017-07-13 19:52:02 UTC  

just aspirin, clopidogrel, statins

2017-07-13 19:52:34 UTC  

yeah my mom is getting a stent put in today supposedly

2017-07-13 19:53:04 UTC  

a stent where?

2017-07-13 19:53:25 UTC  

she just said two arteries are clogged

2017-07-13 19:53:33 UTC  

at first they weren't going to do it

2017-07-13 19:53:38 UTC  

since they said it wasn't bad enough

2017-07-13 19:53:49 UTC  

stable coronary vessel disease is a different disease almost

2017-07-13 19:54:15 UTC  

yeah, she's never had cardiac symptoms. just a very faint murmur she's had for years and years

2017-07-13 19:54:22 UTC  

ekg always comes back good

2017-07-13 19:54:39 UTC  

that's why i asked

2017-07-13 19:55:11 UTC  

she's had chest wall pain since as long as i can remember but i chalk that up to smoking and coughing constantly

2017-07-13 19:56:02 UTC  

it's controversial to stent such a person

2017-07-13 19:56:08 UTC  

SEE

2017-07-13 19:56:10 UTC  

fuck man

2017-07-13 19:56:15 UTC  

unless her chest pain is definitely cardiac

2017-07-13 19:56:21 UTC  

it's most certainly not

2017-07-13 19:56:33 UTC  

then there is no proven benefit to angioplasty and stenting

2017-07-13 19:56:40 UTC  

this has caused significant controversy

2017-07-13 19:56:48 UTC  

that's what i suspected on the fucking phone to her

2017-07-13 19:56:54 UTC  

but she insists on having yet another procedure done

2017-07-13 19:57:03 UTC  

to assuage her own fears

2017-07-13 19:57:06 UTC  

I haven't told you my opinion

2017-07-13 19:57:24 UTC  

just what the mainstream position is

2017-07-13 19:57:40 UTC  

what's the hessian perspective

2017-07-13 19:57:42 UTC  

I don't think its egregious to have stenting with major vessel disease