Message from @fallot

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2017-08-05 17:54:33 UTC  

this guy has even worse ideological ADD than me

2017-08-05 17:54:38 UTC  

He made some nonobvious connections

2017-08-05 17:55:01 UTC  

But there was nothing new for me

2017-08-05 17:55:11 UTC  

his fundamental thesis that modern life makes us miserable by structure and experience is one that really resonates with me

2017-08-05 17:55:55 UTC  

I agree with that
And furthermore that it is spiritual in origin

2017-08-05 17:55:55 UTC  

He cites environment

2017-08-05 17:56:06 UTC  

As the culprit of diminished fertility

2017-08-05 17:56:35 UTC  

But I think that is not primary though it has some effect

2017-08-05 17:59:07 UTC  

I do not get white peoples' obsession with having suburbs and electronics

2017-08-05 17:59:20 UTC  

if they don't have them they will despair and stop having kids

2017-08-05 17:59:24 UTC  

"Who could live like this???"

2017-08-05 17:59:35 UTC  

or other peoples' good opinions of them

2017-08-05 17:59:55 UTC  

having others think highly of you is easy, just use big words, flatter everyone and wear a suit

2017-08-05 18:00:14 UTC  

I think its deeper than that though it may be rationalized that way in their heads

2017-08-05 18:00:24 UTC  

Its such a basic drive

2017-08-05 18:00:42 UTC  

Its absence is exceptional and requires an exceptional explanation

2017-08-05 18:00:49 UTC  

Its taken for granted

2017-08-05 18:01:02 UTC  

That too is secondarily exceptional

2017-08-05 18:01:24 UTC  

So one, a big deal and two, not thinking a big deal is a big deal

2017-08-05 18:01:47 UTC  

Two problems both both not easily explainable by immediate causes

2017-08-05 18:02:02 UTC  

People must have changed a lot

2017-08-05 18:02:41 UTC  

How they did may be somewhat understandable but why they did in the first place is not so

2017-08-05 18:05:54 UTC  

Not having children is the sign of a deeply rooted nihilism

2017-08-05 18:06:06 UTC  

The urge to have kids got replaced by the urge to have sex

2017-08-05 18:06:18 UTC  

A belief in the transience and meaninglessness of existence

2017-08-05 18:06:20 UTC  

I think the pill really was the tipping point

2017-08-05 18:06:21 UTC  

good thought

2017-08-05 18:06:24 UTC  

Metaphysically

2017-08-05 18:06:44 UTC  

But not noticing or caring

2017-08-05 18:06:49 UTC  

Is beyond that

2017-08-05 18:07:10 UTC  

It is spiritual death

2017-08-05 18:07:45 UTC  

I often look at facilitative roles of tech in social trends, I think that's an often overlooked contributor. I think you are right about spiritual death, but I'd argue there's more tech now to facilitate it, i.e. spiritual death is cheaper and more available and higher quality than ever before

2017-08-05 18:07:52 UTC  

The world encourages this stuff toi

2017-08-05 18:07:57 UTC  

Our societies

2017-08-05 18:08:04 UTC  

As they are evil

2017-08-05 18:08:06 UTC  

yeah, and they create tech to do it better every day

2017-08-05 18:08:12 UTC  

Tools of Ahriman

2017-08-05 18:08:27 UTC  

But that is secondary always remember

2017-08-05 18:08:37 UTC  

Without susceptible people

2017-08-05 18:08:50 UTC  

This age would be unachievable

2017-08-05 18:08:54 UTC  

well yeah, I agree spiritual death comes first