and now they're going to either take over the narrative, or be pushed by insidious forces to the top

like when Spencer was crowned King of the Alt Right by the media

It's like trying to get someone into Metal by making them listen to Infester.

nah more like some NSBM band or Blasphemy clone

Infester is really good

Neonazis are worthless, Nazism is failure that people attach their modern ideas of white nationalism etc. to

for various reasons

serious Nazi studies are good, breaking up the lies about them are good

but even the intent should not be to adopt them eventually

they were evil quite frankly

maybe the lesser evil, but evil

not as evil as the eternal anglo

maybe, but nevertheless not something to adopt

at least this episode made me read TRS forum

I should have done that before

these people are delusional

Damn when i said this, it was like "i love nazism and SS Charlemagne"
That would be better if leftism was over without all these victims.

& I cannot talk because i don't have enought knowledge on the question. Maybe i've got 70-80% of opinion.

rarely any harm in talking, maybe you know more than you realize

its the patriot angle they need to push, not the Nazi one

I'm not sure if this is a media war, people seem to fights on things that are not even real, I think it's Bruce Charlton who is right in the long run, to "win" the media war is simply to leave the media

that makes more sense at an individual level I think

my point was the conflict is in the realm of ideas and messages

leftists have won by the general acknowledgement of their values

which even these antileftists often hold

its a soft, bouncy castle totalitarianism

you can leave the media, but how do others that you need to reach leave the media?

you can cut through everything and just offer them the truth

it was alternative media in the first place, blogs etc. that started this whole thing

including Charlton

maybe you're right, but Nick Land's accelerationism & atomization make me think that we missed the train and what's is happening is far deeper than the surface media

I'm not sure what you mean by that, but "surface media" is itself a deep thing

people consistently fail to see outside themselves

appreciate the exceptionalness of their situation or environment

which can make even a study of history misleading, without the right frame

its simply unprecedented, this level of contact between people

our entire lives have changed in fundamental ways

me talking to you right now

is a miracle

this is the reality, people say "real world vs. internet"

its all the real world