Message from @fallot

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2017-08-15 13:40:41 UTC  

but is that really so?

2017-08-15 13:40:47 UTC  

that's just my gut

2017-08-15 13:40:47 UTC  

maybe we are reversing cause and effect

2017-08-15 13:40:51 UTC  

my gut too

2017-08-15 13:40:58 UTC  

I'm open to argument

2017-08-15 13:41:12 UTC  

scale and high iq base populations do not on their own create ideas

2017-08-15 13:41:16 UTC  

like the chinese

2017-08-15 13:41:31 UTC  

does it help? Undoubtedly

2017-08-15 13:41:46 UTC  

a large population and high iq average means the right end of the curve is suited for great achievement

2017-08-15 13:41:54 UTC  

but genius is more than that, though high IQ is probably a necessity

2017-08-15 13:42:17 UTC  

actually I think first we have to address; is technology, progress etc. the product of scale effects or of individuals?

2017-08-15 13:42:23 UTC  

as far as I can see, history is a history of great men

2017-08-15 13:42:28 UTC  

not institutions

2017-08-15 13:44:03 UTC  

What is the Endogenous Personality? And why is he so important?
In a nutshell, we argue that the Endogenous personality is the type of a potential genius – a compound of abilities and attitudes, of intelligence and innerness. As a strong generalization: the true geniuses are Endogenous personalities; and it is from Endogenous personalities that geniuses arise.
The Endogenous personality is the ‘inner’ Man; a person whose outlook on life is ‘inward.’ He is inner-directed, inner-driven, inner-motivated; one who uses inner modes of thinking, inner evaluations, in-tuition; one who is to a high degree autonomous, self-sufficient; one who is relatively indifferent to social pressures, influences and inducements.
He stands in stark contrast to the Exogenous personality; that is, to most people. The Exogenous Personality is orientated toward the environment, particularly the social environment. These are people who want more than anything else social (including sexual) status, worldly success; people whose perceptions are directed outwards and who try to align their behaviour with group norms.
When described in such terms, the Endogenous personality might appear anti-social, uncooperative, a dreamer, not the kind of person we might wish to have to deal with on a regular basis. We would probably be accurate in perceiving the Endogenous Personality in this negative way. We probably wouldn’t want to go for a drink with him, let alone be friends with him.

2017-08-15 13:44:05 UTC  

But he is important; he is very important. Because the Endogenous personality is the archetypal ‘genius.’ He is the type of a genius – whether a large scale, world historical genius of the highest level achieved by humanity – a Shakespeare, a Beethoven or an Einstein – or a local, tribal, or town genius; a shaman, a sculptor, an inventor whose name is unrecorded (yet who might be the originator of some great but anonymous ballad, folk song, painting -- or a technological breakthrough such as the spade, spear-thrower, arch or stirrup).
Genuine ‘breakthrough’, world-impact creativity is so rare, so difficult (far more difficult than commonly imagined) that it requires a special kind of mind – a mind especially designed for this kind of work (inner work). There need not be many such men – indeed, there should not be too many, since the necessary mind is relatively unfit for the primary, day-to-day, activities of survival and reproduction of the species. But such men are needed – sooner or later, from time to time.
These are the people who (whether we know their names or not) will almost-certainly be behind the scientific and technical breakthroughs that are the motor of civilization, these are people whose can inspire and unite society moving it towards greater things or out of the depths of despair and ennui; these are the people who can rescue a society on the brink of catastrophe.

2017-08-15 13:45:09 UTC  

(I think there are some minor issues with the above, but other than that I can only agree)

2017-08-15 14:23:05 UTC  

post Marxists hate the great man theory

2017-08-15 14:23:08 UTC  

of history

2017-08-15 14:23:25 UTC  

but I'm not sure I've seen anyone else tie it to personality traits like that

2017-08-15 14:24:12 UTC  

its something many realize implicitly

2017-08-15 14:24:22 UTC  

consider the stereotype of the genius

2017-08-15 14:24:30 UTC  

basically, a kook

2017-08-15 14:24:35 UTC  

yeah

2017-08-15 14:25:30 UTC  

wait

2017-08-15 14:25:32 UTC  

so what happened

2017-08-15 14:25:40 UTC  

nothing

2017-08-15 14:25:42 UTC  

they shutdown the former altright server

2017-08-15 14:25:45 UTC  

init?

2017-08-15 14:25:48 UTC  

yeah

2017-08-15 14:26:05 UTC  

the altright.com server

2017-08-15 14:26:17 UTC  

ah i see

2017-08-15 14:26:50 UTC  

this place isn't really connected to that

2017-08-15 14:26:55 UTC  

yeah i get it

2017-08-15 14:27:33 UTC  

@UOC the basic idea:

2017-08-15 14:27:41 UTC  

Genius is a certain personality and certain traits

2017-08-15 14:27:44 UTC  

what are those traits?

2017-08-15 14:27:57 UTC  

The ability to become very good at something (in terms of deep understanding)

2017-08-15 14:28:12 UTC  

which requires higher than average intelligence, and dedication towards a certain field

2017-08-15 14:28:23 UTC  

Then the ability to be creative and innovate