Message from @UOC

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2017-08-15 14:33:50 UTC  

that allows them to live comfortably and sensibly

2017-08-15 14:34:26 UTC  

well maybe I'm using the wrong word. dedicated is better

2017-08-15 14:35:03 UTC  

my problem is Charlton has already surpassed and consolidated anything I could say

2017-08-15 14:35:05 UTC  

but at the same time

2017-08-15 14:35:09 UTC  

just linking a book doesn't end well

2017-08-15 14:35:24 UTC  

so I end up quoting or summarizing him with a smattering of my own ideas

2017-08-15 14:36:15 UTC  

Chapter 9 is called The Shaman versus the Head Girl

2017-08-15 14:36:35 UTC  

the true genius is the former, the type of person likely to succeed in the world is the latter

2017-08-15 14:37:48 UTC  

i have his book bookmarked

2017-08-15 14:38:32 UTC  

The ‘Head Girl’ is thus even more problematic in terms of genius. The stereotypical Head Girl is an all-rounder: performs extremely well in all school subjects and has a very high ‘Grade Point Average’ as it is termed in the USA. She is excellent at sports, Captaining all the major teams. She is also pretty, popular, sociable and well-behaved.
The Head Girl will probably be a big success in life, in whatever terms being a big success happens to be framed (she will gravitate towards such aspects of life) – so she might in some times and places make a good marriage and do a great job of raising a family; in another time and place she might go to a top-notch college and get a top-notch job – and pursue a glamorous and infertile lifestyle of ‘serial monogamy’; with desirable mates.

2017-08-15 14:38:34 UTC  

But the Head Girl is not, cannot be, a creative genius. The genius is pretty much everything the Head Girl is not. He (or she) is lop-sided in his abilities – truly excellent at some things or maybe just one thing, he is either hopeless or bored by many others. He won’t work hard for long periods at things he does not want to do. He will not gravitate to the prestige areas of life and cannot, or will not, do the networking necessary to get-on.
The Head Girl can never be a creative genius because she does what other people want by the standards they most value. She will work harder and at a higher standard in doing whatever it is that social pressure tells her to do – and she will do this by whatever social standards prevail, only more thoroughly. Meanwhile the creative genius will do what he does because he must.
The Head Girl will not want to alienate potentially powerful allies. Meanwhile the creative genius is indifferent or hostile to the opinions of others so long as he knows he is right.
The Head Girl is great to have around, everybody thinks she is wonderful. Meanwhile the creative genius is at best a person who divides opinion, strongly, in both directions – at worst often a signed-up member of the awkward squad.

2017-08-15 14:39:14 UTC  

@UOC as we share a personality type I can reasonably assume that while you are well meaning, things like "read this book" tend to fall into a hole from which they will never be recovered

2017-08-15 14:39:20 UTC  

its certainly the case for me

2017-08-15 14:41:56 UTC  

I get to about 80% of the things I start out intending to do.

2017-08-15 14:42:09 UTC  

But not always on the time scale people appreciate

2017-08-15 14:42:41 UTC  

pretty good

2017-08-15 14:42:50 UTC  

I wish I could do that

2017-08-15 14:42:54 UTC  

I'll read that book eventually. I like Charlton.

2017-08-15 14:43:19 UTC  

This is just a particularly busy summer for me.

2017-08-15 14:43:37 UTC  

its more like a long essay than a book to be honest

2017-08-15 14:43:42 UTC  

even better

2017-08-15 14:44:40 UTC  

I think my personality is like a that of a genius except without the intellect or willingness to forgo all social pressures

2017-08-15 14:48:51 UTC  

I have learned that unless someone does cure mortality in my lifetime, I won't get to do 5% of the things that seem interesting to me, so I've basically just picked a couple and I don't do anything else

2017-08-15 15:04:34 UTC  

Charlton doesn't have the benefit of MBTI

2017-08-15 15:04:42 UTC  

you add that together to these ideas and you get something even stronger

2017-08-15 15:05:18 UTC  

some of the "endogenous personalities" would be MBTI extraverts

2017-08-15 15:05:28 UTC  

basically, all the Ns

2017-08-15 15:05:41 UTC  

well, not quite all

2017-08-15 15:06:19 UTC  

INTJ, INTP, INFJ, INFP, ENTP, ENTJ

2017-08-15 15:06:21 UTC  

in a rough order

2017-08-15 15:06:43 UTC  

ENFP and ENFJ unlikely, again in order, descending

2017-08-15 15:16:01 UTC  

I'm in a busy period where I would much prefer to be doing nothing at all

2017-08-15 15:16:11 UTC  

it's a real trough

2017-08-15 15:23:21 UTC  

i wonder if people push back against the MBTI typing thing because they don't want to deal with a predictive model of the flaws they know on some level they have

2017-08-15 15:37:43 UTC  

I think its just the spirit of the times

2017-08-15 15:37:54 UTC  

"empirical", materialist, scientist

2017-08-15 15:38:09 UTC  

@UOC I criticize MBTI

2017-08-15 15:38:21 UTC  

I really don't think anyone would be concerned with flaws

2017-08-15 15:38:25 UTC  

anyone liable to be interested in MBTI

2017-08-15 15:38:28 UTC  

I think it's a horoscope for autistic people

2017-08-15 15:38:31 UTC  

is probably very interested in knowing their flaws