Message from @fallot

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2017-08-15 16:10:07 UTC  

but its too idealistic to think about a future like that, right now what should be focused on is alternatives

2017-08-15 16:10:19 UTC  

the field is open for alt-right media of many kinds

2017-08-15 16:10:24 UTC  

there are tools already there it just takes someone to get the ball rolling. it's a good time now as they're ramping up the shutdown.

2017-08-15 16:10:34 UTC  

twitter seems like an unsustainable thing in the first place

2017-08-15 16:10:38 UTC  

so probably gab will also fail

2017-08-15 16:10:42 UTC  

it's not somethign that can happen at an invidual grass roots level i think

2017-08-15 16:11:00 UTC  

i don't think i'm just complaining when i could do it myself

2017-08-15 16:11:01 UTC  

nothing is going to happen to Discord in general

2017-08-15 16:11:16 UTC  

see, I don't like this attitude

2017-08-15 16:11:23 UTC  

don't let anyone tell you anything about what you are doing

2017-08-15 16:11:27 UTC  

or that you are complaining

2017-08-15 16:11:33 UTC  

complain away

2017-08-15 16:12:00 UTC  

these are just expectations absorbed from the social world, which have decreasing relevance

2017-08-15 16:12:14 UTC  

alt-right literally is complaining on the internet

2017-08-15 16:12:21 UTC  

that's what it started from

2017-08-15 16:12:34 UTC  

your words are agency

2017-08-15 16:12:48 UTC  

there's a lot worth complaining about it in the world

2017-08-15 16:12:51 UTC  

the ability to have your message reach people far away, is extremely powerful

2017-08-15 16:13:04 UTC  

and not in the sense of some big soapbox

2017-08-15 16:13:07 UTC  

IRC with tor is a good solution for the privacy-minded

2017-08-15 16:13:09 UTC  

just reaching individuals I mean

2017-08-15 16:13:38 UTC  

I don't think its privacy that is desired as much as independence

2017-08-15 16:13:44 UTC  

irc gives both

2017-08-15 16:13:55 UTC  

I don't think anyone would care too much if random people read this chat, but it being shut down or curtailed is different

2017-08-15 16:14:19 UTC  

IRC existed for years, and its great, but its obvious from Discord's success

2017-08-15 16:14:31 UTC  

that convenience is very, very important

2017-08-15 16:14:49 UTC  

Discord has definite advantages in user friendliness and the ability to share images and voice chat easily is very nice

2017-08-15 16:15:13 UTC  

its a really big deal I think

2017-08-15 16:15:28 UTC  

this thing is bigger than videogames

2017-08-15 16:15:52 UTC  

i wonder if its possible to make an irc client with at least the image sharing if not voip

2017-08-15 16:16:00 UTC  

mumble always exists for voip as a decentralized open source solution

2017-08-15 16:16:25 UTC  

you probably could, but it would be a mess

2017-08-15 16:17:38 UTC  

probably, would be tough for people on older clients

2017-08-15 16:17:45 UTC  

last time the irc protocol was updated was 2000 it seems

2017-08-15 16:18:18 UTC  

zeronet with tor or at least vpn is a good option

2017-08-15 16:18:43 UTC  

i've used it it works good. they have discord/chan type chat rooms in there. you can make anything.

2017-08-15 16:19:00 UTC  

man the fucking BBC

2017-08-15 16:19:06 UTC  

>accidentally

2017-08-15 16:19:13 UTC  

if you don't use tor or vpn though it's very poor for privacy. everything you do is logged, which is how the whole things works. it's like a blockchain.