Message from @charles watson

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2017-09-03 21:40:32 UTC  

Germany should have reseperated into their former principalities

2017-09-03 21:43:48 UTC  

@charles watsonpretty much after WW1.

2017-09-03 21:44:10 UTC  

The bavarians would not listen to theprussians, east Germans would never respect a Saxon, etc.

2017-09-03 21:44:25 UTC  

The whole pretend to work communist thing

2017-09-03 21:44:37 UTC  

Happened a lot more under the Saxons.

2017-09-03 21:44:47 UTC  

I'm not much of an expert on German history though, so no one should take my opinion seriously here

2017-09-03 21:45:01 UTC  

So if your boss was Saxon, you could barely understand him to begin with.

2017-09-03 21:45:38 UTC  

That's the problem with communism, there is no incentive to do anythkng and it led to people pretending to work even in the 30s.

2017-09-03 21:46:08 UTC  

Like people in the Soviet Union would get fired for drunkenness and get another job in a week

2017-09-03 21:46:25 UTC  

So some had been fired a dozen times and just moved.

2017-09-03 21:46:34 UTC  

ya, peasants trying to rule a society = communism

2017-09-03 21:46:38 UTC  

And the kgb recorded this but didn't do any as they needed the labor.

2017-09-03 21:47:10 UTC  

They were more concerned about the people that kept their jobs and don't do anything as those mgint be wreckers.

2017-09-03 21:47:39 UTC  

So it was in your best interest to give off the appearance of work.

2017-09-03 21:47:45 UTC  

Rather than work.

2017-09-03 21:48:07 UTC  

that is what most people do today as well

2017-09-03 21:48:19 UTC  

people in office jobs in particular

2017-09-03 21:48:32 UTC  

Then they would actively undermine shit like hand tools to one guy to produce more.

2017-09-03 21:48:44 UTC  

And get rewarded and share a bit do the rewards.

2017-09-03 21:48:49 UTC  

As it looks better.

2017-09-03 21:49:34 UTC  

have to be here for a certain amount of time, time is spent pretending to work if work is done ahead of schedule, beats making an effort to catch up on something else if there is no reward for it

2017-09-03 21:49:41 UTC  

Like say he gets a bonus and gives you 100 bucks for handing him a new tool to mine so he doesn't have to waste time that week while you pretend to mine

2017-09-03 21:50:06 UTC  

It still looks like everyone is mining and output is the same or less.

2017-09-03 21:50:16 UTC  

But he has more so he gets rewarded.

2017-09-03 21:50:23 UTC  

And can give you some of it.

2017-09-03 21:50:34 UTC  

work rewarded is mostly "I worked here longer" rather than "I am more effective at this job"

2017-09-03 21:50:40 UTC  
2017-09-03 21:50:44 UTC  

See teachers.

2017-09-03 21:51:28 UTC  

they want people to feel included, very feminine type decisions

2017-09-03 21:57:10 UTC  

@charles watson bring back real feudalism and you get crazy shit.

2017-09-03 21:57:31 UTC  

Like the king of England declaring himself "imperial"

2017-09-03 21:57:40 UTC  

I definetly think we lost a lot of good things from the past

2017-09-03 21:57:55 UTC  

Or other people saying theyre the king as they have a bigger army than the king.

2017-09-03 21:59:06 UTC  

That's basically Rome. The population supported the Emperor against the vaguely democratic Senate every time.

2017-09-03 21:59:23 UTC  

Well if you had enough wealth and military experience, you could get real power.

2017-09-03 21:59:48 UTC  

And they would rather have had the military be the only root to real power under an autocrat.

2017-09-03 22:00:08 UTC  

people not born to hold power probably shouldn't be given power

2017-09-03 22:00:20 UTC  

@charles watson but that never worked.

2017-09-03 22:00:53 UTC  

indeed, kings would often surround themselves with people of ignoble heritage

2017-09-03 22:00:56 UTC  

It has produced the same amount of incompetent people as elections

2017-09-03 22:01:27 UTC  

Maybe less as the son that's incompetent tends to get killed and replaced.