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2017-10-17 20:09:20 UTC  

@Sriadobada who are you, that was reasonably insightful

2017-10-17 20:10:04 UTC  

thank you

2017-10-17 20:10:22 UTC  

I often find myself asking that very same question.

2017-10-17 20:10:26 UTC  

i agree, that was very insightful

2017-10-17 20:11:30 UTC  

I think the point about failing to differentiate between discipline and abuse is one of my main criticisms of the red-pill sphere

2017-10-17 20:11:51 UTC  

Yes I have noticed this as well.

2017-10-17 20:11:54 UTC  

obviously

2017-10-17 20:12:32 UTC  

those guys caught a tiny glimpse past the veil of modernity and then formed a shitty cargo cult around it

2017-10-17 20:18:34 UTC  

It is a natural consequence for men to look down on women, when they are raised with modern expectations of women

2017-10-17 20:18:47 UTC  

Women become seen as merely inferior men, once the lie of equality is seen past

2017-10-17 20:19:28 UTC  

Part of it is that the sexes are equalized in every minor difference

2017-10-17 20:19:47 UTC  

So the only remaining differences are the extreme disparities, which are magnified

2017-10-17 20:20:17 UTC  

Put boys and girls together in the same engineering classes, and the differences in their thinking become immediately obvious

2017-10-17 20:20:36 UTC  

A man will pursue his natural masculine virtues, be told that women are the same, and see that women keep failing at those virtues, and then look down on the women

2017-10-17 20:20:54 UTC  

yes

2017-10-17 20:22:46 UTC  

yes

2017-10-17 20:23:36 UTC  

and women, pushed to pursue masculine virtues, failing to compete, also fail to develop feminine virtues and a natural sphere of feminine influence, then look with envy on men outcompeting women at the game of being men

2017-10-17 20:24:12 UTC  

all while retaining feminine instinct

2017-10-17 20:24:31 UTC  

there have been a few scientific studies in the past pointing out how the more equal the two sexes are in terms of social capital the more obvious it is what really separates them

2017-10-17 20:24:35 UTC  

They are pushed to pursue some virtues, like engineering

2017-10-17 20:24:49 UTC  

feminists have looked at india sayign women work in mines therefore its fair and equal

2017-10-17 20:24:50 UTC  

Other masculine virtues, on the other hand, are disowned entirely

2017-10-17 20:24:51 UTC  

>engineering
>virtuous

2017-10-17 20:24:57 UTC  

they forget how fucking poo rthose coutnries are tho

2017-10-17 20:24:58 UTC  

spotted the enginigger

2017-10-17 20:25:28 UTC  

In my experience, the push has been something like "achieve in the same way men achieve - go to work, make partner, feel independent from family, strive to make your mark"

2017-10-17 20:25:43 UTC  

imo if someone excels at the subjectt then its fine

2017-10-17 20:25:47 UTC  

if theyre shit they need to stop

2017-10-17 20:25:59 UTC  

Who's doing the pushing though

2017-10-17 20:26:09 UTC  

@TendieLord shareholders

2017-10-17 20:26:16 UTC  

^

2017-10-17 20:26:22 UTC  

money is big motivator

2017-10-17 20:26:56 UTC  

human capital is valuable. women work really hard. something like an associate law job, a woman can defintely excel at because it's basically just dotting is and crossing ts

2017-10-17 20:27:13 UTC  

doubled labor pool pushes wages down, increases competition

2017-10-17 20:27:38 UTC  

Yeah "excelling" in the sciences is basically getting answers right on tests and putting unreasonable amounts of effort into writing lab reports

2017-10-17 20:28:03 UTC  

Women don't really excel at it, they're just on par

2017-10-17 20:28:18 UTC  

You yourself said that the job can not be excelled at

2017-10-17 20:28:18 UTC  

They excel at being conscientious and working hard at menial tasks

2017-10-17 20:28:19 UTC  

there are outliers who excel

2017-10-17 20:28:23 UTC  

Everyone is the same in that job

2017-10-17 20:28:30 UTC  

yeah @UOC