yeah he's always saying "at least the christians don't actually believe in their god"

bit more complex than that @Sriadobada

you're not wrong

I am not out to write an essay on the matter.

@Sriadobada not necessarily a bad thing

the complicating issue is Salafism, and that Saudi projection of Islam is what appears strongly in the zeitgeist

certainly in a western perception

Wahabism?

yeah pretty much

more than that, but yeah, pretty much

these people have broken with tradition, though they seem very extreme

they are like the christian puritans in a sense

To keep culture alive sometimes you have to be extreme

The extent to which they control marriage and relationships is designed to keep the kafirs out. Whether these practices are agreeable or not I will leave to others.

all modern jihadism stems from these ideas/people

Kuffars I think is the term

that's just normal human behaviour I think, keep the outgroup out

kafir singular, kuffar plural

all human society, including the west, controlled marriage and reproduction pretty strictly

parentally arranged marriage was the rule even in the west

In my opinion the West has lost its way

Like completely off the beaten path

yeah

unfortunate

and it remains to be seen whether the reaction to that will be corrective

or destructive

Funny thing is we were warned

Kruschev said they would destroy us from within

Arranged marriages in the west crossed tribal lines. The unromanticized truth is that they are a strategic game game who's goal is to maximize family's social status and estate. It is on par with OKcupid empowered one night stands in vulgarity and materialism.

where's the equivalence

an argument to distinguish would be that jockeying for material advantages for a family in a marriage from which many other benefits flow to other aspects of the social fabric is different from a pure-sex arrangement that captures no benefits to any aspect of society except corporate judaism

hang on

what is wrong with a match for status, estate etc.

and compatibility

this is materialism of a different sort than sensate hedonism

@Sriadobada : http://charltonteaching.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/the-science-of-sex-most-important.html

Two examples of vulgarity that come to mind is that the materialistic concerns see the upper castes looking beyond their tribe to secure a larger estate. There is of course famous cases of inbred houses. The effect trickles downward as the rigidity of caste places and upper limit, encouraging such things as cousin marriage. Nevermind that at the level of the married man and woman that they were denied participation in the usual modes of primate courtship.

spare me your blogperson

wait so we have to listen to your fake academic tone but you are above other peoples' fake academic tone?

Charlton is a real academic, actually

I just got in a huge fight with a client who is a complete fucking idiot and i'm riding high on conflict endorphins