Message from @Exilarch
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enlightenment philosophy was, however, a rebellion against the catholic church... for not being catholic enough
ok pause there
essentially, spergs in the catholic church got mad that "liberty, equality, fraternity" was being practiced insufficiently... by those same catholics who preached it in the first place
wait a sec, so that libery equality fraternity stuff came from catholocism?
yes
look at their religion
"all children of god"
seems pretty hierarchichal though
catholic - katholikos - universal
well yes, it is hierarchical, but only because it inherited a more hierarchical society to parasitize
right
at first extremely hierarchical feudal europeans inherit a religion that tells them everyone is equal
then after a while people say "wait a minute this nobility and pope business is not egalitarian enough! I thought the religion said we were equal!" and so they dethroned the kings and the pope and became protestants and seculars still obsessed about equality, with a slightly flatter hierarchy
then the marxists did it again, another "You people aren't egalitarian enough! >_<" plus flattening of hierarchy
now with SJW flashmob tactics the hierarchy is almost entirely flat, I don't know how they could get it flatter
but people look at classical european society with its heavy catholic influences and fundamentally misattribute the beauty, grandeur, hierarchy and organization of that society as being catholic in origin
really what they are looking at is the results of thousands of years of living one way, building up that race and society, then suddenly slapping catholic labels on everything, and then at the snapshot in history they show you with renaissance paintings and shit, you see all of the wonderful stuff before it decayed but with CATHOLIC 😃 written on it in bold face
hold on
it's like having an athlete work out hard and eat a shitload of protein for 10 years, then for 2 weeks become a vegan and do nothing but meditate, and then turn around and say "his body is the way it is because of veganism and meditation"
a lot of that renaissance stuff was explicitly religious
that's what I am telling you
you're saying the mass in bm would have happened without Jeebus
i find that hard to believe
Exilarch did you change your handle?
Christianity and monotheism has been inspirational
it wouldn't have happened, but something like it would have
a pagan version
yes
dalit mothafucka
but paganism was pretty degenerate too
it wasn't only greatness
that's not what we're discussing
what we're discussing is the fact that "golden era catholicism" preached a doctrine that eliminated the conditions its own existence requires
any Golden Era came far before that bogus dogma
it requires talent, loyalty, vision and hierarchy to have that sort of catholic age/culture, but the elimination of talent/loyalty/vision/hierarchy is the logical conclusion of catholic doctrine
The golden age of man was when we were hunter gatherers.
well that's definitely not true
lol
LOL WERE YOU THERE BRO?
fucking and sharing