Message from @Exilarch

Discord ID: 384577399846600705


2017-11-27 05:28:52 UTC  

no, mormons worship the doctrine of Spencer W. Kimball (who contradicted every prophet before him hugely) and also the BYU honor code

2017-11-27 05:29:02 UTC  

and Mitt Romney and general conservadad republicanism

2017-11-27 05:29:32 UTC  

what actual God might have revealed to Joseph Smith or Brigham Young, these are of secondary importance, and if they contradict the former, are bitterly stigmatized

2017-11-27 05:29:46 UTC  

as far as I can tell, FLDS are correct

2017-11-27 05:29:58 UTC  

Do mormons believe his story?

2017-11-27 05:30:12 UTC  

Joseph Smith's? Yeah it stands to reason, but fun fact, that story is tampered as well

2017-11-27 05:30:22 UTC  

there is an official version printed in every copy of the mormon scriptures

2017-11-27 05:30:43 UTC  

but if you actually dig up the old cursive written documents by joseph smith, there were other details added and removed

2017-11-27 05:30:44 UTC  

man.

2017-11-27 05:31:09 UTC  

there were like 4 different versions he said, all were roughly the same but slightly different descriptors were used in one of them, and the modern church zeroed in on it and decided, "THAT is what Joseph saw!"

2017-11-27 05:31:14 UTC  

and what did his journal say

2017-11-27 05:31:24 UTC  

so he was a nut

2017-11-27 05:31:25 UTC  

it's called the Joseph Smith Papers, you can just google it even

2017-11-27 05:31:37 UTC  

why would i even bother

2017-11-27 05:31:47 UTC  

but off the top of my head, it said the gods appeared to him in a pillar of flame, old testament style, not a pillar of light like the LDS say

2017-11-27 05:32:15 UTC  

just a small detail really, I could reread it again

2017-11-27 05:32:36 UTC  

I actually believe Joseph Smith entirely - to the point that I am forced to disbelieve my church

2017-11-27 05:32:44 UTC  

which is rather ironic

2017-11-27 05:32:57 UTC  

why have you not taken control of the cult you are apart of yet? @Exilarch

2017-11-27 05:33:15 UTC  

Are you an atheist @Parasite

2017-11-27 05:33:17 UTC  

well, because I do not believe it works like that

2017-11-27 05:33:21 UTC  

sounds like your local church is full of dummies

2017-11-27 05:33:27 UTC  

and you are the smart one

2017-11-27 05:33:39 UTC  

they all are, I move all over the country and go to mormon churches while I travel

2017-11-27 05:33:43 UTC  

it's not like it is a local phenomenon

2017-11-27 05:33:44 UTC  

no i am not atheist

2017-11-27 05:33:45 UTC  

it's systemic

2017-11-27 05:33:57 UTC  

ahhh

2017-11-27 05:34:04 UTC  

following the chain of command?

2017-11-27 05:34:20 UTC  

that, plus they are silly people who take religion quite lightly

2017-11-27 05:34:34 UTC  

most of them have barely studied the book of mormon at all, much less read all of it

2017-11-27 05:34:44 UTC  

even fewer of them have actually read the entire 4 books we believe in

2017-11-27 05:34:58 UTC  

bible, book of mormon, doctrine & covenants, pearl of great price

2017-11-27 05:34:59 UTC  

anyone who remotely believes in the Joseph Smith story is fair game

2017-11-27 05:35:17 UTC  

channel their false spiritual energy into a brighter future

2017-11-27 05:35:43 UTC  

move these people man

2017-11-27 05:35:53 UTC  

there are huge volumes of writing by brigham young and people high in the church, quite well documented, something like 8000 pages of it. The number of mormons who even KNOW about it is so small that it rounds to zero

2017-11-27 05:36:06 UTC  

has the alt right pagan-christian split been resolved yet?

2017-11-27 05:36:13 UTC  

i saw that there was such a thing

2017-11-27 05:36:18 UTC  

the number of people who actually read it all... well, let's put it this way, if I actually read it all, I might literally be the only one

2017-11-27 05:36:36 UTC  

if I did that, I might be literally the most studied mormon on the face of the whole earth