Message from @Hagel
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I'm not against all welfare
I can see that, I am saying, in general terms.
But I recognize that if you must force people to do it against their will, then it isn't sustainable
In regards to our conversation about throwing out NS or not.
Did he force people, actually? Does a miraculous success in 6 years show an oppressed and miserable people?
I think people were accepting of the idea
there will always be people against whatever you do, however
and that's why it happened so smoothly
These things don't emerge out of nowhere
Mohammedan countries kill gays for a reason
it's popular
For sure. So the working plan was an attempting tailoring to these people.
People with a "work" culture, but also an "idealistic" culture.
I know that eugenic ideas and social engineering ideas were popular at the time
It was mainstream in Sweden
anyway.... thanks for telling me your conclusions
So I imagine it was all over Europe
It was mainstream all over the world
Only convenience politics changed that. Mainly through Jewish lobbying.
The concept of eugenics is obviously good
It's because people don't value virtue anymore
or goodness
@Hagel , have you read *The Antichrist*, by Nietzsche? or are you currently reading it? ;)
I've read some stuff by Nietzsche, not that
It was a little rough in the beginning
I was reading weird translated German poems at first
and I just thought, okay
this is not what I expected
But I continued reading and started to enjoy it
I'd argue, as per Nietzsche (and I thought so before ever knowing Nietzsche), that the loss of virtue and inversion of values comes from Christianity.
I don't want to speculate about what caused what historically, but Christianity itself is an inversion of intuitive values
That is evidently true
I'd say that weird feeling is what started to make me question my Protestant faith. It was always weird that Christianity seemed to champion the weak so much, and feelings of guilt and never pride.
It's like wanting to feel sick all the time and being happy about it.
Or feeling "virtuous" about it.
Yeah
It's sick
The hoops people jump through to justify it are ridiculous
Look at it honestly, and it is clearly sick
To Hitler's credit he did want it gone over time