Message from @Pelagius

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2018-01-12 16:15:59 UTC  

nobility is not made with money (alone)

2018-01-12 16:16:01 UTC  

yeah muh meritocratic ______would never do stupid things

2018-01-12 16:16:41 UTC  

You brought up money not me

2018-01-12 16:16:51 UTC  

In terms of power

2018-01-12 16:16:53 UTC  

What I am getting at, is that you are conflating

2018-01-12 16:16:56 UTC  

confounding

2018-01-12 16:17:11 UTC  

No it's called political economics

2018-01-12 16:17:28 UTC  

Simplifications that obfuscate the truth.

2018-01-12 16:17:40 UTC  

you can say "the upper class", if you like

2018-01-12 16:17:48 UTC  

but "aristocracy" and "nobility" mean something else

2018-01-12 16:18:08 UTC  

in today's world , the "upper class" is an ascended merchant class, not a "nobility"

2018-01-12 16:18:22 UTC  

dude political economics was a field of study

2018-01-12 16:18:52 UTC  

"dude", that doesn't change the meaning of what we are discussing

2018-01-12 16:19:01 UTC  

you know what else is a "field of study"? Women's studies

2018-01-12 16:19:11 UTC  

K?

2018-01-12 16:19:50 UTC  

the point being, that doesn't mean they got this right, at least not completely

2018-01-12 16:20:05 UTC  

that flattening of terms and doing away with quality is a Marxist thing

2018-01-12 16:20:30 UTC  

Boogeyman

2018-01-12 16:20:34 UTC  

no

2018-01-12 16:20:35 UTC  

scurryyyyy

2018-01-12 16:20:42 UTC  

I am giving you reasons why it is wrong

2018-01-12 16:20:53 UTC  

it flattens out and erases distinctions that are meaningful, and functional

2018-01-12 16:21:20 UTC  

an aristocratic class does things differently than an ascended MERCHANT class, for DIFFERENT REASONS, and WITH DIFFERENT GOALS

2018-01-12 16:21:49 UTC  

You aren't giving anything substantive other than semiotics over labels

2018-01-12 16:22:01 UTC  

I've made claims

2018-01-12 16:22:05 UTC  

here follows more

2018-01-12 16:22:46 UTC  

Please no more

2018-01-12 16:22:47 UTC  

an aristocratic class is concerned with the preservation of structure and excellence, with quality in society, and thus is interested in the really long-term effects

2018-01-12 16:22:52 UTC  

Jesus Christ

2018-01-12 16:23:02 UTC  

an ascended merchant class is concerned with profit exclusively

2018-01-12 16:23:21 UTC  

I've given you substantial and clear statements at every step.

2018-01-12 16:23:56 UTC  

`an aristocratic class is concerned with the preservation of structure and excellence, with quality in society, and thus is interested in the really long-term effects`
I lold hard

2018-01-12 16:24:01 UTC  

IF you insist on being a pampered college boy without manners, that is a different issue

2018-01-12 16:24:46 UTC  

I'm out @diversity_is_racism , not going to waste my time with this sort of individual.

2018-01-12 16:25:03 UTC  

`aristocrats are defined as the following positive connotations. Merchants are defined as the following negative connotations.` scholarly insight brother

2018-01-12 16:30:37 UTC  

I'm glad he left

2018-01-12 16:30:51 UTC  

He has no idea how much more vig knows than him

2018-01-12 16:31:39 UTC  

I'm leaving the dojo senpai because this guy wouldn't play into my word games

2018-01-12 16:33:51 UTC  

ACTUALLY PELAGIUS MADE THE VALID POINT HERE

2018-01-12 16:33:58 UTC  

WE WOULD LOOK AT FREQUENCY, NOT ANECDOTES

2018-01-12 16:44:35 UTC  

no he really didn't. An aristocracy is just a description of power resting in the hands of a small class. In a feudal society that meant those who owned the land and passed it down via hereditary in most cases. In a capitalist society, power rests in the hands of those who own industry which is typically a small number of people residing in the investment class. In a socialist society, power rests in the hands of a few bureaucrats.