Message from @diversity_is_racism

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2018-01-17 20:36:09 UTC  

Oh

2018-01-17 20:36:31 UTC  

@devolved NO, BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE IN LINE WITH DUALISM

2018-01-17 20:36:42 UTC  

PLATONIC FORMS POSIT AN UNDERLYING ORDER TO THIS WORLD, NOT A SEPARATE WORLD

2018-01-17 20:36:57 UTC  

THIS GETS DIFFICULT BECAUSE THERE ARE POTENTIALLY ADDITIONAL DIMENSIONS OR LAYERS TO THIS WORLD

2018-01-17 20:36:59 UTC  

BUT UNLIKE DUALISM

2018-01-17 20:37:04 UTC  

THE RULES ARE NOT DIFERENT

2018-01-17 20:37:10 UTC  

THE TWO WORLDS ARE DIRECTLY JOINED

2018-01-17 20:37:55 UTC  

how do you personally join them

2018-01-17 20:40:19 UTC  

Like there's basically zero cause and effect relationship between Fingerness and the five digits protruding from my palm.

2018-01-17 20:47:03 UTC  

Not finish with this thread but it is a good read.
https://twitter.com/Freyaslight/status/953437362499047424

2018-01-17 20:48:46 UTC  

God bless Texas

2018-01-17 21:11:25 UTC  

@༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻ ACTUALLY, THE CORE OF THE ARGUMENT IS THAT THERE IS

2018-01-17 21:11:28 UTC  

FINGERNESS IS NOT A MATERIAL

2018-01-17 21:11:35 UTC  

IT IS A PATTERN (OUR WORD FOR "FORM")

2018-01-17 21:11:58 UTC  

What's the causal link between the immaterial form and the material object

2018-01-17 21:12:14 UTC  

Yours that is

2018-01-17 21:20:03 UTC  

THE MATHEMATICS OF PATTERN

2018-01-17 21:20:10 UTC  

A FINGER IS A SHAPE DESIGNED FOR A SERIES OF FUNCTIONS

2018-01-17 21:20:29 UTC  

THIS IS DETERMINED BY INTERACTIONS BETWEEN ITS PARTS AND THE OBJECTS ON WHICH IT ACTS

2018-01-17 21:20:43 UTC  

THUS ITS ESSENCE IS STRUCTURAL, OR INFORMATIONAL, NOT MATERIAL, OR RELATED TO WHAT IT IS MADE OF

2018-01-17 21:20:51 UTC  

FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN MAKE REASONABLY ACCURATE ROBOTIC FINGERS

2018-01-17 21:20:54 UTC  

THEY EXHIBIT FINGERNESS

2018-01-17 21:21:06 UTC  

PHILOSOPHERS TEND TO USE THE CHAIR AS AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE IT IS THE SIMPLEST POSSIBLE CHOICE

2018-01-17 21:21:13 UTC  

ANYTHING WITH SUPPORT PLUS A BACK IS A CHAIR

2018-01-17 21:21:21 UTC  

NAIL A BOARD TO A STUMP AND IT WORKS JUST AS WELL

2018-01-17 21:21:33 UTC  

PLATO POSITS AN INFORMATIONAL CAUSE/EFFECT RELATIONSHIP

2018-01-17 21:21:35 UTC  

So the pattern exists prior right

2018-01-17 21:21:54 UTC  

THAT IS: THE DEMANDS OF THE SITUATION DETERMINE WHAT FILLS IT

2018-01-17 21:22:06 UTC  

THE PATTERN "EXISTS" IN THE FORMS OF THE MATHEMATICS OF THE UNIVERSE

2018-01-17 21:22:15 UTC  

IT IS LOGICAL THAT CHAIRNESS WILL BE THERE

2018-01-17 21:22:25 UTC  

FOR THIS REASON, THERE IS AN INFORMATIONAL SUBSTRATE TO THE UNIVERSE

2018-01-17 21:22:41 UTC  

AND THEREFORE, THOUGHTS INFLUENCE MATTER (CF. HERMETICISM) MUCHAS DEEDS DO

2018-01-17 21:22:50 UTC  

BUT WHAT MATTERS IN THE LONG TERM

2018-01-17 21:22:58 UTC  

IS HOW WE USE PHYSICALITY TO INFLUENCE THE PATTERNS AROUND US

2018-01-17 21:23:04 UTC  

I.E. WHAT IS ACHIEVED IN AN IDEALISTIC SENSE

2018-01-17 21:23:56 UTC  

THAT IS: THE DEMANDS OF THE SITUATION DETERMINE WHAT FILLS IT
THE PATTERN "EXISTS" IN THE FORMS OF THE MATHEMATICS OF THE UNIVERSE

Can you detail this out

2018-01-17 21:24:18 UTC  

these*

2018-01-17 21:24:47 UTC  

maybe with just an example

2018-01-17 21:27:27 UTC  

CONSIDER THE FORM OF A FISH

2018-01-17 21:27:38 UTC  

WE KNOW THE NATURE OF PLANETS AND THE NATURE OF WATER